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Litmus test......

Everyone answer honestly....


If you were the owner of an NFL team, and had to hire a General Manager.

Would you hire Jerry Jones?

Of course not, and he's only a GM here because he owns the team.

And just like when Jimmy and Parcells were here, he's a GM in title only. Jason Garrett is driving the boat now.
 
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Of course not, and he's only a GM here because he owns the team.

And just like when Jimmy and Parcells were here, he's a GM in title only. Jason Garrett is driving the boat now.

Don't sass me boy.

You can't argue that Jerry is a good GM, when we all know if you owned a team, you wouldn't hire him.
 

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I guess you missed the part "in the last 15" years. It wasn't until after Jimmy left that Jerry took full control over personnel and started hiring his puppet HC-in-name-only's so as not to be upstaged again.

Oh right and we're back to more stuff you made up.

If that's what people are doing then you'd have a point.

It is, and I do.

Not my fault that when Jerry has given control to quality HC's like Jimmy and Bill that we've succeeded and when he's been more hands on we've declined. Jerry's just not a good GM.

It's funny that you don't see what you're doing while you're doing it. All we know is that Jerry has hired good and bad people to be coaches. Jerry could have remained exactly the same as he's always been, and the results are going to be different when Bill Parcells is running your program as opposed to Dave Campo. Big effing surprise. But instead of just roll with that, you've invented this imaginary scenario in your butt where the amount of control Jerry exerts ebbs and flows based on the personality of his head coach, which is a theory that may be popular but it is supported by poop.
 

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Why didn't Jerry promote from within after he fired Jimmy? We had plenty of good coaches on the team. Any of them would have been better than Switzer and would have kept that same atmosphere going. That was dumb.
 
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Why didn't Jerry promote from within after he fired Jimmy? We had plenty of good coaches on the team. Any of them would have been better than Switzer and would have kept that same atmosphere going. That was dumb.

Noone on Jimmys staff proved to be worth a shit as a head coach.

Barry kept the staff intact, if memory serves.
 

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Why didn't Jerry promote from within after he fired Jimmy? We had plenty of good coaches on the team. Any of them would have been better than Switzer and would have kept that same atmosphere going. That was dumb.

Oh no. That would be dumb. Hiring a wishbone coach who has zero NFL experience and who hadn't coached in 6 years is clearly the way to go. Duh.....
 

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Noone on Jimmys staff proved to be worth a shit as a head coach.

Barry kept the staff intact, if memory serves.

None of them could have been worse than Switzer. NFL films did a documentary about the 1994 season and it showed a team coached by the assistants with figurehead Barry along for the ride.
 
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We did win a Super Bowl with Switzer, so to say none of them would've been worse than him is a bit much.

I know the perception is he was a terrible coach - and I'm not really arguing that he was anything special - but I can't dismiss him winning a Super Bowl considering how many talented teams have fallen short of that goal.

Only one team is crowned a year.
 
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It's funny that you don't see what you're doing while you're doing it. All we know is that Jerry has hired good and bad people to be coaches. Jerry could have remained exactly the same as he's always been, and the results are going to be different when Bill Parcells is running your program as opposed to Dave Campo. Big effing surprise. But instead of just roll with that, you've invented this imaginary scenario in your butt where the amount of control Jerry exerts ebbs and flows based on the personality of his head coach, which is a theory that may be popular but it is supported by poop.

Has anyone ever told you that you sound alot like Hostile?

As for the coaching hires, yes, of course there will be a difference between having coaches like Jimmy/Parcells who have power over their staffs and personnel and hiring guys like Gailey/Campo/etc. That's the whole point. Jerry hired coaches like the latter and gave them no power for a reason, so he himself could be in control and not get out-spotlighted like he did when Jimmy was here.
You really think Jerry thought that Gailey and Campo were the best coaches he could hire? Of course not. He hired them because they didn't have huge egos or require the power that a Jimmy or Parcells type coach would demand. Therefore Jerry could force assistants on them and control the personnel and pull all the strings. That's the entire point. When Jerry did this with him having full power and hiring the weaker HC's we suffered. When he stepped back and hired strong HC's like Jimmy and Parcells and gave them power over their staffs and personnel, then the franchise turned around and started having success.

So you can deny it if you want, but it's not going to change the reality of the situation.
 
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Why didn't Jerry promote from within after he fired Jimmy? We had plenty of good coaches on the team. Any of them would have been better than Switzer and would have kept that same atmosphere going. That was dumb.

Jerry had a thing for Barry going way back to his college days. I even recall hearing talk back then, I think when Wannstadt left, that Jerry wanted to hire Barry to be the DC but Jimmy would have nothing to do with it.

Jerry's just a dumbass when it comes to the football operations. We're just lucky he hired Jimmy in '89 and not Barry or we'd still be looking back at '77 for our last Super Bowl championship.
 

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We did win a Super Bowl with Switzer, so to say none of them would've been worse than him is a bit much.

I know the perception is he was a terrible coach - and I'm not really arguing that he was anything special - but I can't dismiss him winning a Super Bowl considering how many talented teams have fallen short of that goal.

Only one team is crowned a year.

We barely won that last Superbowl and we're lucky we even played in it. If we'd had a headcoach who was worth a shit we would have won four in a row. Nope, we're stuck with 3 out of 4 and every time I hear that I want to throw up.

Jerry had a thing for Barry going way back to his college days. I even recall hearing talk back then, I think when Wannstadt left, that Jerry wanted to hire Barry to be the DC but Jimmy would have nothing to do with it.

Jerry's just a dumbass when it comes to the football operations. We're just lucky he hired Jimmy in '89 and not Barry or we'd still be looking back at '77 for our last Super Bowl championship.

He knows how to grow a football team business-wise but he doesn't know his head from his ass when it comes to football operations and you are right about the Super Bowl comment.
 

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I wonder which bandwagon I would've jumped on instead.

The only time I ever considered not rooting for the Cowboys was when we fired Jimmy Johnson and then replaced him with Barry fricken Switzer.

I was bareley out of the Army. I remember I was sitting in my Grandfather's office, listening to sports radio.

It was the day my hatred for Jerry was born.
 

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The only time I ever considered not rooting for the Cowboys was when we fired Jimmy Johnson and then replaced him with Barry fricken Switzer.

I was bareley out of the Army. I remember I was sitting in my Grandfather's office, listening to sports radio.

It was the day my hatred for Jerry was born.

I was in 5th grade and remember hearing about it. I really wasn't a fan at the time but all my friends at school were and wore cowboys shirts and jackets. One used to wear a shirt with the team portrait on it. So I knew about the Cowboys, but I wasn't a fan of football then. I became a fan after I watched the 1994 NFC Championship game. I didn't know hardly anything about football but I had a bad feeling about that game. Jimmy would have had us at home during the playoffs that year but if we weren't we would have beaten San Francisco. He owned them. Then they owned Switzer. He was a loser.
 
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