Donte Rosario signs with Dallas.

[superpunk]

Fasano and Bennett were far superior blockers to Escobar.

Nice try though.

We could have the same thing you are talking about with Hanna's natural progression IMO.

heres a guy who has broken down Escobar's college blocking film, analyzed how it will translate to the pros, then contrasted it with Fasano and Bennett's. I'm impressed.

 

[boozeman]

I'm sure it had some effect theebs but I think the Oline was way worse. We played musical chairs at all three interior line positions for half the season. I think health and continuity there will be way bigger than anything Escobar or Hanna can do.

So why did we spend another second round pick on a TE? We could have just crossed our fingers for more "continuity" and pray to the injury gods.

 

[superpunk]

So why did we spend another second round pick on a TE? We could have just crossed our fingers for more "continuity" and pray to the injury gods.

Probably because we didn't re-sign Phillips. Just guessing.

 

[dbair1967]

What kind of crow suppers?

Excellent question. We have Roast Crow. Be have Steamed Crow. We have Baked Alaskacrow. We have Chocolate Covered Crow. We have Feast of Feathered Crow Stew. We have MeeMaws Secret Recipe Crow Delight. Etc Etc Etc

The way some of you people are dreaming about this, it tells me you all expect this to be the Patriot offense. I feel pretty safe that Escobar won't show up and terrorize the league. I have even less confidence in Garrett's ability to make that work while also wiggling in the passes he's going to throw to Williams and oh yeah, he said he's gonna run the ball more too.

I doubt our offense will put up Patriot-like numbers, but I do see it as being vastly improved over the past couple seasons. Our OL isn't as good as the Pats, and Romo isn't as good as Brady. But we do have good skill people, quality talent at RB and I do think the OL will be improved. Put me down for 400-425 pts this year.

I don't have a problem with having a quality backup TE. You need that. But it is insane that you need to spend three second round picks in less than nine years to get that done.

I think they've been dedicated to a type of system, unfortunately the two guys they spent those 2nds on previously didn't pan out as well as they hoped. Hopefully Escobar does.

 

[boozeman]

heres a guy who has broken down Escobar's college blocking film, analyzed how it will translate to the pros, then contrasted it with Fasano and Bennett's. I'm impressed.

Go find me a single scouting report that gives him more than an average blocking evaluation and then compare it to both Bennett and Fasano and get back to me. Until then STFU and stick to talking about cats or being a flaming liberal ******.

 

[Theebs]

Fasano and Bennett were far superior blockers to Escobar.

Nice try though.

Nice try?

We will have these guys lining up in different spots.

Witten couldn't block in the summer of 03 and that is all parcells would talk about with him.

He will learn the offense, get stronger in the program and I bet be a good blocker.

And fasano moved around in parcells offense and did a bunch of wham blocking on interior runs, under Garrett and sporano they made him more of an in line guy and he was pretty good at it. I don't think he should have ever been traded. We missed him.

I have no doubts Escobar turns into a good player and a good blocker.

I love hearing the dopes keep saying he can't block, cant wait to read the backtracking on him in a couple of months.

 

[superpunk]

Go find me a single scouting report that gives him more than an average blocking evaluation and then compare it to both Bennett and Fasano and get back to me. Until then STFU and stick to talking about cats or being a flaming liberal ******.

wait a second I thought you already broke it down now you're asking me to find it for you?

 

[dbair1967]

Fasano and Bennett were far superior blockers to Escobar.

Nice try though.

We could have the same thing you are talking about with Hanna's natural progression IMO.

Fasano really wasn't a good blocker. He was ok at best. Bennett is one of the better run blocking TE's in football though.

I think Escobar looks like a more natural receiver than either Fasano or Bennett did coming out, would you not agree?

 

[Theebs]

I'm sure it had some effect theebs but I think the Oline was way worse. We played musical chairs at all three interior line positions for half the season. I think health and continuity there will be way bigger than anything Escobar or Hanna can do.

Of course, losing your center and trying to compensate for a guard in Mack who was injured for most of the offseason were the keys.

The wr being lost didn't help either.

 

[boozeman]

Probably because we didn't re-sign Phillips. Just guessing.

We could have drafted another guy much later.

But we chose to spend yet another premium choice on a second tight end.

And your explanation is because we didn't resign John Phillips?

Being married to the scheme does not mean you invest that kind of draft capital.

Unless you are an idiot of course.

 

[Theebs]

Go find me a single scouting report that gives him more than an average blocking evaluation and then compare it to both Bennett and Fasano and get back to me. Until then STFU and stick to talking about cats or being a flaming liberal ******.

Here we go.

Moments away from a Jerry sucks response.

 

[dbair1967]

We could have drafted another guy much later.

But we chose to spend yet another premium choice on a second tight end.

And your explanation is because we didn't resign John Phillips?

Being married to the scheme does not mean you invest that kind of draft capital.

Unless you are an idiot of course.

Do you think Witten is in his prime today? Do you think he is the threat vertically that he was a few seasons ago?

 

[superpunk]

We could have drafted another guy much later.

But we chose to spend yet another premium choice on a second tight end.

And your explanation is because we didn't resign John Phillips?

Being married to the scheme does not mean you invest that kind of draft capital.

Unless you are an idiot of course.

i know right why did we pick terrance williams either when we already have a WR?

Infuriating.

fuck anyone who suggest we ever draft a qb before romo is dead

 

[boozeman]

Fasano really wasn't a good blocker. He was ok at best. Bennett is one of the better run blocking TE's in football though.

I think Escobar looks like a more natural receiver than either Fasano or Bennett did coming out, would you not agree?

Sure.

But we have people like superpunk claiming that hey, adjust what you think the second TE offense can do.

So...if they aren't the second coming of the NE duo or the 1980s Chargers, they probably should be a blocker then.

Fasano was regarded as a better blocker than Escobar though. If we wanted a blocker, we could have taken Levine Toilolo, his college teammate later on. Or Dion Sims.

We took Escobar for his receiving ability.

You can't rationalize the investment on any logical front other than assuming we are going to field some kick ass yee haw two tight end offense like the Patriots or we will be getting rid of Jason Witten within four years. So which is it?

 

[boozeman]

i know right why did we pick terrance williams either when we already have a WR?

Infuriating.

fuck anyone who suggest we ever draft a qb before romo is dead

Oh, I dunno... I think Miles Austin's hamstrings and horrible contract will have his ass off the team well before Witten and historically a third WR will see more passing targets than a second TE in a normal offense, but hey, that's just me.

 

[dbair1967]

Booze I'd have more respect for you if you'd go back to classic drunk old man pic you used to have

 

[boozeman]

Do you think Witten is in his prime today? Do you think he is the threat vertically that he was a few seasons ago?

Nope.

But I bet your ass we won't have him riding the bench at any point on crucial downs so we can give Escobar his snaps any time soon.

 

[superpunk]

Oh, I dunno... I think Miles Austin's hamstrings and horrible contract will have his ass off the team well before Witten and historically a third WR will see more passing targets than a second TE in a normal offense, but hey, that's just me.

are you trying to tell me that we drafted a WR, not just because we'd like him to play some this year, but because we are also preparing for the future at the same time?

crazy talk.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

That's the whole thing... How and when is Escobar going to make this huge difference? I don't see it. I think best case he converts some third downs and catches some redzone TDs. There's still only one ball and it's still Dez, Witten, Miles, and Demarco ahead of him in line.

I would think that a bigger jump could come from Williams or maybe even Harris giving us a Laurent Robinson type year.

Again, if Callahan really gets to run things and Romo gets to do more no-huddle, that will help a ton also.

 

[boozeman]

Booze I'd have more respect for you if you'd go back to classic drunk old man pic you used to have

Same guy. Just a different angle.