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Sure, and it wasn't the defense either
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One of the two wasn't scoring enough points. It's a weird reasoning to blame the defense for not causing enough turnovers so the offense can be in a better position to score.
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Giving up 400 pts isn't exactly championship caliber defense genius
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Well, exactly. The idea that the two TE offense creates all these mismatches doesn't really pan out.
Teams continually spend a ton of resources trying to make it work and the latest NE iteration is the only one that really has made it work as a base. It is a sub package and not one that requires a significant investment in resources to make work.
i think everyones hung up on the mismatch idea from when Parcells mentioned it in passing.
really it's just another way to skin a cat. we use an H back. it's a big enough part of our offense that we spend decent resources on it when we feel the need to. whoop dee fucking doo.
we'll probably keep doing it, and if we ever luck into a Gronk/Hernandez combo like the Patriots did, maybe it's a featured thing and our second TE will actually put up solid numbers like Hernandez's eye popping 50 receptions for 500 yards mean.
really it's just another way to skin a cat. we use an H back. it's a big enough part of our offense that we spend decent resources on it when we feel the need to. whoop dee fucking doo.
we'll probably keep doing it, and if we ever luck into a Gronk/Hernandez combo like the Patriots did, maybe it's a featured thing and our second TE will actually put up solid numbers like Hernandez's eye popping 50 receptions for 500 yards mean.
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It is a sub package. I just hate spending a second on a sub package when you have other pressing needs. If you're the Niners coming off a Super Bowl appearance with a boatload of picks, sure grab a luxury TE in 2.
Plus, there are other subpackages that are more valuable than a two TE set. I'd way rather spend a second on a third WR than a second TE.
The only reason I get hung up on the mismatch thing is that I've seen that thrown out a lot as a rationale. Balanced offense, defense can't match up, run or pass out of it, etc.
In reality, that TE is a glorified third tackle/5th option in the passing game.
Maybe Callahan is creative enough to use a second TE, I don't have any faith in Garrett being able to do it.
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The Bengals have been building a pretty good team and drafting well for several years now. They just spent another 1st rd pick on a TE after drafting one in the first rd a few seasons ago, and drafting a pretty talented pass catching TE in the 4th rd last yr.
That's what he did.
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Yep, and it only works for them for one reason: Gronk is an absolute boss.
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Oh, the Bengals you say? Compelling argument, dbair.
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Do they have a talented roster and have made the playoffs the past two yrs?
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The Chiefs moved all the way up to 13 to get Gonzalez, not just in front of us.
We drafted LaFleur at 22.
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IIRC we also traded up (a third) with Philly to take him.
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We did do that. We might not have had to move up those few spots that yr to get LaFleur either IIRC. CMD claimed we traded up BEFORE the draft, I don't remember that. It might be true, but I don't remember it.
I think everybody in the world knew we were taking a TE with our first pick that year if at all possible, and Aikman had spent time working out both Gonzalez and LaFleur and liked both guys. There were two rated as bonafide first rd picks, Gonzalez and LaFleur. LaFleur actually carried a top-10 grade that yr according to BLESTO (and he was rated above Gonzalez)
People love bashing on the LaFleur pick, but if it had not been for the degenerative back condition that ruined him he would have had a good career.
I remember reading somewhere that Philly knew we wanted LaFleur and called Dallas telling us a team was wanting to trade up into their spot and take him, but would give us a chance to match their offer. Jerry jumped at it. Eagles laughed about the trade afterwards.
I remember reading about that years ago. Anyone else hear that story?
Edit: I do think that LaFleur would've been good if not for his back injury. But then again, I also thought Eric Bjornson was going to be good too.
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Nice. 376 points of flawless 3 and outs.
Ask not what your offense didn't do for your team, ask what your defense couldn't do for your offense.
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Pretty sure my stance has been to blame both.
But only a doofus looks at a team with a defense that gives up 400 pts, 100,000 yds, cant force a turnover to save their life or get sacks/QB pressure at the most important times, and thinks they arnt at least partially to blame for being a mediocre team.
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Dante Rosario could have special teams impact
June, 5, 2013
By Calvin Watkins | ESPNDallas.com
When the Dallas Cowboys signed veteran tight end Dante Rosario, it surprised some outside the organization because the club already had three players at the position projected to make the 53-man roster.
The Cowboys picked up Rosario mainly because of his special teams work.
Last season, Rosario had five tackles, a fumble recovery and a blocked punt for the San Diego Chargers.
"If you're not a starter, you expect to play special teams with the limited number of spots they can dress (on game days)," Rosario said. "That's something that’s part of my game and it's been part of my entire career, and I plan on continuing it."
That doesn't mean Rosario won't see time on offense. He caught 10 passes for 95 yards and three touchdowns with the Chargers last year and has 99 career receptions for 1,106 yards and eight touchdowns in six NFL seasons.
"(Bisaccia) had a lot to do with me coming here," Rosario said of special teams coach Rich Bisaccia, who was hired by Dallas in the offseason after two seasons in San Diego. "I enjoyed playing under him on special teams in San Diego and I'm looking forward to doing that here and being able to learn from Jason Witten, who I consider one of the best all-around tight ends in the league."
June, 5, 2013
By Calvin Watkins | ESPNDallas.com
When the Dallas Cowboys signed veteran tight end Dante Rosario, it surprised some outside the organization because the club already had three players at the position projected to make the 53-man roster.
The Cowboys picked up Rosario mainly because of his special teams work.
Last season, Rosario had five tackles, a fumble recovery and a blocked punt for the San Diego Chargers.
"If you're not a starter, you expect to play special teams with the limited number of spots they can dress (on game days)," Rosario said. "That's something that’s part of my game and it's been part of my entire career, and I plan on continuing it."
That doesn't mean Rosario won't see time on offense. He caught 10 passes for 95 yards and three touchdowns with the Chargers last year and has 99 career receptions for 1,106 yards and eight touchdowns in six NFL seasons.
"(Bisaccia) had a lot to do with me coming here," Rosario said of special teams coach Rich Bisaccia, who was hired by Dallas in the offseason after two seasons in San Diego. "I enjoyed playing under him on special teams in San Diego and I'm looking forward to doing that here and being able to learn from Jason Witten, who I consider one of the best all-around tight ends in the league."