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I 100% believe this.

This kid wasn't stupid. I think he was a radicalized ideolgue but I don't think he was stupid in the intellectual sense.

If the world was somewhat normal, we'd be hearing from neighbors and acquaintences. We'd see his social media posts. We'd be seeing other videos of him. It's strange that we don't have any real info on the shooter.

The people who are speaking are all debunking the MSM narrative of him 100%
 

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At the absolute very best: This is criminal negligence. Possibly criminal negligent homicide.

That's the best case scenario.

I know the government is inept, but I'm having a real hard believing this is the best case.
I dont believe that either.

I don't know WHO exactly put it together. But I do 1000000% believe pieces of our government had a MAJOR role in the attempt.
 

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its the government so thats definitely in their wheelhouse

look at everyone already pointing fingers, thats a big chunk of the problem where people can appeal to authority and say I was just following orders or that wasnt my decision to make, area of responsibility, etc until a general malaise takes over because no one is ever held accountable. Watch how this plays out, nothing will happen to anyone except maybe a "time out" which will end up being a week of paid leave or some horseshit.

We need to bring back personal responsibility but of course that wont happen as the mere suggestion will be dismissed as "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" and racist

Contrast the current mindset to that of the WW2 era where people like Eisenhower had extreme accountability.

He penciled a note on a small pad in his tight, precise, hand that he would need to deliver if the (D day) invasion went wrong:

"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops," Eisenhower wrote. "My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."

Sorry, not buying it at all Yim

NOBODY allows a shooter on top of a building with a rifle that close to someone they are protecting, and it's something that every single expert is echoing.

The loser got on the roof because he was ALLOWED on it and everything was done to make SURE he got on it.
 

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Sorry, not buying it at all Yim

NOBODY allows a shooter on top of a building with a rifle that close to someone they are protecting, and it's something that every single expert is echoing.

The loser got on the roof because he was ALLOWED on it and everything was done to make SURE he got on it.

could be but it could also be gross incompetence

I'm afraid we'll never know one way or the other
 

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I love how these people suddenly want to be reasonable when it comes to throwing out accusations; 'it's too early'. It was never too early to call Trump or his voters a racist, a white supremacist a nazi. Yet suggest that there are certain elements within our country that are traitors and they slam on the breaks. What a load of shit and this guy should call her on it.
 
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