Atheism to Defeat Religion By 2038

[Sheik]

/common sense chops.

 

[superpunk]

It goes back to belief.

We all believe in something that can't be shown, or something we can't see. People are different. Some people believe different shit.

There's no proof that a Christian God doesn't exist either.

That was the point.

IMO, you can't side with science and be sure there isn't a God. That is, until science proves otherwise.

Again - everywhere you put God in the above paragraph substitute fairies or Zeus or unicorns and read it again. Unless you can explain why God and specifically the Christian God deserves special consideration - consideration you are unwilling to give these other entities for which there is no proof outside of books and ancient people's "feelings" of various gods throughout time - there is no reason for me or any other person to give the God idea any more respect than fairies or Zeus or Lord Xenu the scientology alien.

Fairy tales cannot be tested, they can't be disproved. Noone will ever be able to disprove fairies or Zeus or the Christian God. But until there is a shred of testable (falsifiable is the important word, skeptically and scientifically) evidence for any of them then if you are being mentally honest you must put them all in the same bin. Fun for kids, useless for everyone.

 

[jeebus]

I do care about what i believe and what is true and not true. If you don’t, then i don’t know what to tell you. I just don’t see by what standard you make choices by. Believe in anything that “feels good”? Others admit to not having enough proof but that’s ok, i’ll believe anyways because i was raised in Christian America and it’s politically correct to believe in god!

Where did I say any of this. Because I dont give a fvck how to prove sunlight existence doesnt make sunlight any less real.

I dont believe anything that feels good, but when you have a god like presence in your soul it is just silly to even argue about. It is there, dont know how or why you cant see it, but I just dont care. I wont argue whether light is a beam or a photon, because it doesnt matter and its presence is clear enough for my purposes.

And I cant speak for believers who dont think there is proof of god, I guess i wouldent be a believer in that situation.

 

[peplaw06]

And I cant speak for believers who dont think there is proof of god, I guess i wouldent be a believer in that situation.

I guess you're talking about me (probably among others). Let me just clear this up. I think there is proof of God. It may not be scientifically proven that there is a God, but I think there is proof. Everyday I try to prove things to other people. It's pretty rare that I have direct evidence (aka eye-witness testimony). 99% of the time I'm trying to prove things happened by circumstantial evidence. If I didn't believe circumstantial evidence could get you anywhere, I wouldn't have a job.

 

[superpunk]

The cool thing about feeling sunlight is we can measure the energy it is transmitting, we know that energy is absorbed by our skin cells making us feel good, we can use it for growing plants and solar power and all sorts of things. Feeling sunlight is also an experience we can share with every other person and living thing on earth, except for lifelong cave dwellers. The sun was our first and most useful god. (Every god after is a cheap imitation - an attempt to "personify" the sun - Jesus is a popular sun-god imitation)

The unfortunate thing about feeling god's presence is that absolutely none of the above is true for that experience. It's isolated to the individual. People who claim to have felt it cannot even agree with each other on what exactly "it" is. "It" can't be measured, used for anything, or shared with anyone else.

"It" is completely useless.

 

[Hoofbite]

I do care about what i believe and what is true and not true. If you don’t, then i don’t know what to tell you. I just don’t see by what standard you make choices by. Believe in anything that “feels good”? Others admit to not having enough proof but that’s ok, i’ll believe anyways because i was raised in Christian America and it’s politically correct to believe in god!



(clears throat)

All clear?

 

[jeebus]

The cool thing about feeling sunlight is we can measure the energy it is transmitting, we know that energy is absorbed by our skin cells making us feel good, we can use it for growing plants and solar power and all sorts of things. Feeling sunlight is also an experience we can share with every other person and living thing on earth,

Blah blah blah.

The unfortunate thing about feeling god's presence is that absolutely none of the above is true for that experience. It's isolated to the individual. People who claim to have felt it cannot even agree with each other on what exactly "it" is. "It" can't be measured, used for anything, or shared with anyone else.

I don't think that is unfortunate.

 

[superpunk]

That's the smell of victory.

 

[Sheik]

Go to hell, buddy.

 

[superpunk]

 

[lons]

I bet she's fun in the sack. To bad she has the other leg. Could put a rope around her and throw it over he ceiling fan and play merry go round.

 

[jeebus]

lol, the amazing power of man.

 

[superpunk]

lol, the amazing power of man.

I don't know how to quantify it but inventing prosthetic limbs to give amputees a functional life sure beats anything God ever did for them. By like, a billion miles.

 

[NoDak]

I don't know how to quantify it but inventing prosthetic limbs to give amputees a functional life sure beats anything God ever did for them. By like, a billion miles.

lol

 

[superpunk]

#winning

 

[jeebus]

I don't know how to quantify it but inventing prosthetic limbs to give amputees a functional life sure beats anything God ever did for them. By like, a billion miles.

lol

Even an imaginary god has done more for people than that...

 

[superpunk]

Well now you're just lying. That chick could pray all day long, with faith the size of 11 mustard grains, and that leg's not growing back and she's not going to magically get a falling-manna-prosthesis.

 

[jeebus]

Well now you're just lying. That chick could pray all day long, with faith the size of 11 mustard grains, and that leg's not growing back and she's not going to magically get a falling-manna-prosthesis.

Yep, but even if god is imaginary he has done far more for people than that leg. Only need to look at the lives of some AA members...

 

[superpunk]

Yep, but even if god is imaginary he has done far more for people than that leg. Only need to look at the lives of some AA members...

God's never done anything for anyone in AA, other than act as a placebo. They did that shit themselves, whether they realize it or not. People without faith beat alcoholism all the time. AA works as a support group, not a god-magick-voodoo-session.

God only seems to have the power to do things that could otherwise be done without him. Like help people find their car keys when they're late for work, or make the day pretty.

Although maybe there is something to this God stuff. He does still seem to be using faith healers;

[video=youtube;u9SS95q2kpg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u9SS95q2kpg#![/video]

Except when he forgets to help the TRUE BELIEVERS.

If only they had more faith, or not expected god to do what he did in his magic book when he was just healing fucking everyone.

 

[jeebus]

God only seems to have the power to do things that could otherwise be done without him.

Could have done and would have done are two very different things. Even Nietzche's dead god is more powerful than your prostetic leg. He has crumbled empires and flayed non-believers