Atheism to Defeat Religion By 2038

[superpunk]

in all fairness noone is saying that if Obama didn't exist I would rape children or murder people.

if the only thing that was really keeping believers from doing that shit is the existence of a higher power and fear of retribution then it would be a really scary world. Fortunately almost noone really believes that shit. the ones that do end up killing themselves when they pilot jets into buildings.

 

[peplaw06]

if the only thing that was really keeping believers from doing that shit is the existence of a higher power and fear of retribution

yes cuz i said that

 

[superpunk]

"I don't understand what the point is in living a good life if there is no higher power."

its a common believer argument, often followed by If there's no god I might as well kill myself and there's no reason to live/not do heroin/not be a prostitute. It's a common side effect of deriving your life purpose from a book/invisible fairy.

 

[Sheik]

I would rape big time if Jesus didn't exist.

 

[Sheik]

Not kids. Just throwing that out there.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

The desire for better in the world regardless of how it affects us is proof of god

 

[superpunk]

The desire for better in the world regardless of how it affects us

god

What is 'Things that aren't real"?

I'll take holy wars for a thousand Alex.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

If I told you that button in front of you kills an innocent kid in Calcuta, would you press it?

God.

I get physical evolution due to climate, selective breeding and whatnot. But there was a big bang and Now I want good things for others?

 

[superpunk]

But perhaps the most compelling evidence for the strength of animal empathy came from a group of psychiatrists led by Jules Masserman at Northwestern University. The researchers reported in 1964 in the American Journal of Psychiatry that rhesus monkeys refused to pull a chain that delivered food to themselves if doing so gave a shock to a companion. One monkey stopped pulling the chain for 12 days after witnessing another monkey receive a shock. Those primates were literally starving themselves to avoid shocking another animal.

being a social/tribal animal + empathy (ability to trade places mentally with others, imagine what it's like to be them) = altruism

 

[Everlastingxxx]

This stuff is just common sense. Sad how some smart people refuse to actually use their brains critically with regards to their religion.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Yes, exactly.

There are other things that drive us besides we eat, shit, die, and turn into worm food.

Unless of course it's to study monkey in which case well shock and starve them

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

This stuff is just common sense. Sad how some smart people refuse to actually use their brains critically with regards to their religion.

Doesn't have to do w/ your team vs my team. If you remove your ego it's pretty clear we are not on top of the totem pole

 

[superpunk]

Yes, exactly.

There are other things that drive us besides we eat, shit, die, and turn into worm food.

Unless of course it's to study monkey in which case well shock and starve them

we have alot of time for recreation now but that is a pretty recent development. until we started inventing fire and tools and living indoors yeah it was pretty much eat shit reproduce die

only took a few million years but here we are.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Almost like we got some help along the way these last couple thousand years

 

[superpunk]

so in your idea god sat back and watched our ancestors live incredibly difficult and what we would perceive as meaningless (eat shit reproduce die) lives for millions of years, lucky to make it out of their twenties before he stepped in and did what exactly? brought us fire like the greeks thought?

If you think about your idea out further than you are it doesn't make any sense at all. Or it makes god an incompetent asshole.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...iw=320&bih=356&sei=cfHoT_fJOMrE2wWk7JHADQ#i=2

 

[superpunk]

yeah the aliens guy stole your link, too.

my basic point in rebuttal is you can't just say God or Aliens and stop there. That's not an explanation for anything it's a thought stopping technique.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Oh sorry I don't have all the answers Ed Harris. I just know we went from being fish to sending a man made craft into the edge of space in a couple years and I think there's something smarter out there than us which explains this quantum leap.

Monkeys are peeing into their mouths and we are colliding particles. This seperation occurred because they lived in the northern hemisphere and us the south?

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Oh sorry I don't have all the answers Ed Harris. I just know we went from being fish to sending a man made craft into the edge of space in a couple years and I think there's something smarter out there than us which explains this quantum leap.

Monkeys are peeing into their mouths and we are colliding particles. This seperation occurred because they lived in the northern hemisphere and us the south?

Argument from ignorance. You and peplaw06 keep repeating this same faulty argument over and over and fucking* over again.

*added for emphasis.

 

[peplaw06]

"I don't understand what the point is in living a good life if there is no higher power."

its a common believer argument, often followed by If there's no god I might as well kill myself and there's no reason to live/not do heroin/not be a prostitute. It's a common side effect of deriving your life purpose from a book/invisible fairy.

Someone's smoked too much THC