Atheism to Defeat Religion By 2038

[Sheik]

Get a god damn avatar, Hugh.

Its probably the most disrespectful thing someone could do on a message board, posting without an avatar.

A close second would be threatening to rape someone like a ******.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

The gospels vary for one main reason.

They were the accounts of 4 different people written at 4 different times. What do you expect? It was 4 eye witness accounts.

In police investigating do you know what the most believable form of corroborating eye witness accounts is? When the story is varied. Take 4 witnesses and interview them all. If the story lines up pretty much the same with a few variations its much more believable that everyone being word for word. That sounds much more rehearsed.

What did the gospels all say? Sinners need a savior, Jesus is the savior, He was born of a virgin, He was crucified for our sins, he was resurrected thereby paying the ultimate price for mankind. Story over.

Here's the deal, I feel very fortunate that I get to be a around a group of believers who let everyone work these peripheral issues out on their own. Grasp what is called "the essentials" and work the non-essentials out on your own, within your own conscience. There is no time to try to make robots out of everyone, there is too much to get done for people who actually want help.

Do you need/want a savior? No? OK, cool, is there any other way I can help you? No? Awesome, have a great life and let me know if you change your mind. ~high five~

Ok, so details now don’t matter. You ignored my point on Mark. That is the oldest gospel and clearly the others took from it because they use parts of it word for word. Mark ends with Jesus body being missing and everyone was afraid...the end. The most important part about the Christian faith is the resurrection of Jesus. If it didn’t happen and can’t be proven, your faith is worthless. The other gospels made up their own ending, why it’s a giant cluster fuck.

Let’s see, one gospel mentions an earthquake, the others don’t. Odd right? Kindof a big deal. That gospel also mentioned zombies invading the town (dawn of the dead), lol. Who saw Jesus at the tomb or what it one angel or two angels? None of them agree. it’s two woman, in another gospel its a group of people. Where did the disciples first see Jesus? One says Gailee, the other Jerusalem. Two different towns miles apart. One gospel forgets Thomas and counts him among the disciples. The reason you haven’t put the events in chronological order is because it would prove that the story is completely made up. The backbone of your faith is a farce.

 

[jeebus]

Ok, so details now don’t matter. You ignored my point on Mark. That is the oldest gospel and clearly the others took from it because they use parts of it word for word. Mark ends with Jesus body being missing and everyone was afraid...the end. The most important part about the Christian faith is the resurrection of Jesus. If it didn’t happen and can’t be proven, your faith is worthless. The other gospels made up their own ending, why it’s a giant cluster fuck.

Let’s see, one gospel mentions an earthquake, the others don’t. Odd right? Kindof a big deal. That gospel also mentioned zombies invading the town (dawn of the dead), lol. Who saw Jesus at the tomb or what it one angel or two angels? None of them agree. it’s two woman, in another gospel its a group of people. Where did the disciples first see Jesus? One says Gailee, the other Jerusalem. Two different towns miles apart. One gospel forgets that Judas was dead and counts him among the disciples. The reason you haven’t put the events in chronological order is because it would prove that the story is completely made up. You can’t do it and you know it. The backbone of your faith is a farce.

The backbone of faith is not a book, it is gods presence in your soul. I pity he who can't feel it.

 

[superpunk]

I would love to hear your explanation on this.

Keep in mind, that if a child doesn't get their way over pretty much anything, they'll pout or throw a tantrum. Thinking your decision was flawed and unfair.

A child can recognize that God made the wrong decision. Rather than punishing the culprits alone he decides to visit the punishment on the offspring as well, none of which had done anything. Thats the main problem and there are about a million more. It's a really bad and flawed legend that is only meant to enslave people. If you start actually thinking about it rather than just accepting it it falls apart instantly.

 

[jeebus]

A child can recognize that God made the wrong decision. Rather than punishing the culprits alone he decides to visit the punishment on the offspring as well, none of which had done anything. Thats the main problem and there are about a million more. It's a really bad and flawed legend that is only meant to enslave people. If you start actually thinking about it rather than just accepting it it falls apart instantly.

Lol I never liked the fact that old testament wrecked punishment upon you for 7 generations. So next time something bad happens to you, remember you don't deserve this but you great great great granddad slept under the same roof as you menstrating great great great grandma and that debt had to be settled.

 

[skidadl]

The details matter to me. I have my ideas on most of it. What I'm saying is that there are essentials for the faith and they are non-essentials

I did my best to answer your questions that you asked on the gospel accounts. That's my answer. I'm guessing you disn't like the answer so now what?

 

[jeebus]

Holy War.

 

[jeebus]

I have found a logical fallacy in your 2,000-5,000 year old book, ha I disproved your religion.

I hope someone doesn't look for mistakes in 50 year old scientific text, you might disprove the entire scientific method and we will have to go back to pre-enlightenment thought patterns.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I think people brainwash themselves into believing nonsense because the alternative is too hard for them to accept. The world doesn’t revolve around you. If there is a god somewhere out there, he isn’t the Christian god and he doesn’t give a shit about us.

 

[jeebus]

I think people brainwash themselves into believing nonsense because the alternative is too hard for them to accept. The world doesn’t revolve around you. If there is a god somewhere out there, he isn’t the Christian god and he doesn’t give a shit about us.

Yep, anyone who doesn't think like you is a weak willed coward.

It is easier to be Crucified by Romans than to deny the existence of god. Those pussies we're just weak.

 

[Iamtdg]

Its probably the most disrespectful thing someone could do on a message board, posting without an avatar.

A close second would be threatening to rape someone like a ******.

lol

 

[Iamtdg]

This was a fun thread at one point. I barely remember that time now.

 

[lons]

I think people brainwash themselves into believing nonsense because the alternative is too hard for them to accept. The world doesn’t revolve around you. If there is a god somewhere out there, he isn’t the Christian god and he doesn’t give a shit about us.

So he's the Muslim God? Oh wait, same one. The Jewish God? Oh wait, same one. Hrmmm

Dang, I guess he's Buda?

 

[NoDak]

A child can recognize that God made the wrong decision.

So, you're pinning this arguement on what a child is and is not capable of ascertaining on their own?

lol

Don't have kids, huh?

 

[superpunk]

Too obtuse to understand the literary device wherein something is so obvious that a child can see it?

The idiocy of original sin and the need for redemption is that obvious.

 

[lons]

Too obtuse to understand the literary device wherein something is so obvious that a child can see it?

The idiocy of original sin and the need for redemption is that obvious.

You raise a fairly good point. I'll throw in another good example.

The idiocy of throwing good money after bad is so obvious to most everyone that isn't a liberal that you must be true believers to grasp the greatness.

 

[Iamtdg]

Too obtuse to understand the literary device wherein something is so obvious that a child can see it?

The idiocy of original sin and the need for redemption is that obvious.

You think kids of 4-5 can grasp good morals?

If you seriously think that, you have gone to a whole new level.

 

[NoDak]

Too obtuse to understand the literary device wherein something is so obvious that a child can see it?

The idiocy of original sin and the need for redemption is that obvious.

Typical. Make stupid statement, get called on it, sling insult, divert attention from it. Hostile would be proud. You learned well during all that time you spent over there.

 

[superpunk]

Holy shit are you people retarded?

The purpose of saying a child can understand the idiocy of the legend is to illustrate how obvious it is - not to suggest that children should be relied upon as arbiters of morality. Classic Hostile move to ignore the intent and divert with "omg u think children shud tell us wut to do" and then top it off with a classic bob move "omg ur like hostile".

Son you just went full ******.

 

[Iamtdg]

It's a swing and a miss.