2013 Season Game Threads Mega-Merge

[GloryDaysRBack]

So is your point that he will never be able to win even if you give him a defense and protection? Or is your point that he can lose a game even if he has a defense and protection?

They're two completely different things. Your post sounded like it was a more general, never gonna happen thing.

im just going off of facts...this is the only game i can think of in which he has had both...and we lost...does that mean he will never win? absolutely not...but what are the chances this guy gets better?

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

GTFO with that bullshit.

The Chiefs didn't cover either. How could you possibly have thought they would cover that line? Just cause Vegas set it there?

the original line was chiefs -1...so they pushed on the opener...and the point is that vegas knew KC would win...which they did

 

[peplaw06]

im just going off of facts...this is the only game i can think of in which he has had both...and we lost...does that mean he will never win? absolutely not...but what are the chances this guy gets better?

Have you ever seen him play better?

 

[Sheik]

Todd Hebert calling someone a crybaby?

Pot, meet fucking bigger crybaby.

 

[peplaw06]

the original line was chiefs -1...so they pushed on the opener...and the point is that vegas knew KC would win...which they did

They didn't "know" anything. They predicted that KC would win. And they set a close line. 3 points with KC being the home team is basically a toss up. Which is what it was.

 

[peplaw06]

Todd Hebert calling someone a crybaby?

Pot, meet fucking bigger crybaby.

He can't keep us out of his head. We live up in there.

 

[Hoofbite]

This team has spent so much in trying to manufacture some sort of offense and I think it's pretty fucking clear that the problems are in the leadership on offense.

There is none. Monte can bring his old incontinent ass in here with Marinelli and turn out a solid defense in the first month but 6-7 years can't get the offense under Garrett's control to be anything more than average?

This offense is shit. The plays they run are shit. The bubble screen might be the most ineffective play in the playbook but they run in a handful of times per game.

 

[peplaw06]

Anyone know what's going on in the TB/NO game?

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

This team has spent so much in trying to manufacture some sort of offense and I think it's pretty fucking clear that the problems are in the leadership on offense.

There is none. Monte can bring his old incontinent ass in here with Marinelli and turn out a solid defense in the first month but 6-7 years can't get the offense under Garrett's control to be anything more than average?

This offense is shit. The plays they run are shit. The bubble screen might be the most ineffective play in the playbook but they run in a handful of times per game.

hard to argue against this...with that said...one could just as easily argue that romo is the guy running this offense...

 

[bbgun]

lightning storm delay

 

[Sheik]

Morris Claiborne is a wasted pick.

Some of you guys can "give him time", but this guy is a soft piece of dookie.

And he didnt interfere with Avery either.

 

[yimyammer]

Todd Hebert calling someone a crybaby?

Pot, meet fucking bigger crybaby.

who's Todd Hebert?

 

[peplaw06]

theebs

 

[bbgun]

related to Bobby Hebert?

 

[Sheik]

Related to a pussy.

 

[UVAwahoos]

This team has spent so much in trying to manufacture some sort of offense and I think it's pretty fucking clear that the problems are in the leadership on offense.

There is none. Monte can bring his old incontinent ass in here with Marinelli and turn out a solid defense in the first month but 6-7 years can't get the offense under Garrett's control to be anything more than average?

This offense is shit. The plays they run are shit. The bubble screen might be the most ineffective play in the playbook but they run in a handful of times per game.

Agreed.

Some of yall are looking for Joe Montana to come in and hide the egregious coaching deficiencies. Good coaches can work with a player's strengths and not force him to turn into Houdini. Dallas has none of that on the offensive side at least.

 

[bbgun]

5 Thoughts: Dallas Cowboys blow multiple opportunities to open season 2-0
By Jon Machota
jmachota@dallasnews.com
3:27 pm on September 15, 2013

The Dallas Cowboys continue to have a difficult time starting a season 2-0. It has only happened three times over the last 17 seasons and the Kansas City Chiefs made sure it wouldn’t be four times in 18 years.

Here are my five thoughts on the Cowboys dropping to 1-1 after losing in Kansas City 17-16 on Sunday.

1.) Yes, it wasn’t as bad as the debacle in Seattle in Week 2 last season but it ended with the same result. All of the blown opportunities should make the Cowboys feel sick. The offense had multiple chances in the fourth quarter to answer with a go-ahead scoring drive but it never happened. Several short Tony Romo passes sailed wide and one of his best deep balls was dropped by Dez Bryant. The worst defensive play of the day came from Morris Claiborne, who was called for pass interference on a pass attempt to Donnie Avery that likely wouldn’t have resulted in a first down. Had the second-year corner not committed the infraction, Dallas would’ve had a couple minutes to get in range of a game-winning field goal.

2.) The defense didn’t force any turnovers but that doesn’t mean they didn’t have a solid showing. Yes, they gave up two long drives, which led to 14 points. But the Cowboys should win a lot of games if their defense holds opponents to 14 points. Monte Kiffin’s group did its part for the second consecutive week. And remember, they’re still learning the system. If DeMarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer, Jason Hatcher, Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Brandon Carr and a few others can stay healthy, this group should continue being a strength.

3.) Could the running game look any worse? You want to know why the Cowboys pass so much? Well, it’s because they can’t run the football. Dallas ran 16 times for only 37 yards on Sunday. If you didn’t know, that’s terrible. The addition of Brian Waters should help, but this doesn’t appear to be a problem that will be completely fixed this season. In the opener, the Cowboys ran for only 87 yards on 23 attempts. Not having a running game means a lot of long third down attempts for Romo. How has that worked out? After converting 5-of-15 third downs against the New York Giants, the Cowboys were 3-of-11 on Sunday. You won’t win in the NFL converting only three third downs.

4.) While Dez Bryant had a terrible fourth quarter drop, that doesn’t mean the Cowboys should not be giving him more opportunities to make plays, especially when he’s dominating his coverage. Up until that mistake, he was unstoppable. He had 100 yards in the first quarter! Brandon Flowers, one of the better corners in the league had no answer for him, but the Cowboys stopped taking advantage of the mismatch in the second quarter. During 17 offensive snaps in that quarter, the Cowboys went to Bryant twice. … Even if he’s getting safety help, after starting the game the way he did, there should’ve been more opportunities for him to make a play. On the opening drive of the second-half, Bryant made three catches for 28 yards and the Cowboys marched down the field. But when they had it in the red zone, Bryant was never given another opportunity.

5.) It sure is nice having Dan Bailey. The third-year kicker is 6-of-6 on field-goal attempts this season and they all certainly haven’t been easy. On Sunday, Bailey drilled a career-long 53-yarder. The other two were from 51 and 30 yards, respectively. It would be difficult to find a kicker better than Bailey right now. And it would’ve been interesting to see how he would’ve responded with a chance to win the game — even if it was from near midfield.

 

[cmd34]

This is why I hope we get Gruden. He solves the Jerry issue (discipline, accountability) and the Jason issue (real offense, strategy).

 

[Sheik]

Agreed.

Some of yall are looking for Joe Montana to come in and hide the egregious coaching deficiencies. Good coaches can work with a player's strengths and not force him to turn into Houdini. Dallas has none of that on the offensive side at least.

You have no issue with Romo and his audible ability and his check down tendencies?

I'd put this up near the top of Romo's worst games. He goes to a bubble screen with Dez singled 3rd and goal at the 9? A two yard fucking out pattern to Witten on 3rd and 10? Various dink and dunk passes with the weapons at his disposal?

His accuracy has been non existent through two games this year. Ribs? Maybe. He looks like David Carr behind the Texans early o-lines, but there's hardly any pressure to speak of.

I've been one of his biggest supporters, but it's clear he's not what he was, even going back to late last year. Maybe there's something to this back injury thing. Idk. But he's not the same QB. Not even close.

Give him credit for roughing it out, nice deep throw dropped, but I can't excuse brad Johnson like dunking and dunking.

 

[Sheik]

I didn't think it was possible, but Callahan is worse than Garrett. Not even close. At least he could get the offense moving the ball between the 20s.