Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

Midswat · Jun 25, 2013

peplaw said:
And if you really believe that Trayvon who was on the phone with his girlfriend, trying to figure out what to do, and running from Zimmerman, decided to go initiate a physical confrontation with someone he probably didn't get a great look at, and who is obviously not a small man, then I guess that's on you. Still doesn't have anything to do with flawed logic.

So the 6'2" football player was "running" away from Zimmerman?

Did Zimmerman catch up with him and started a fist fight after telling the cops exactly where he was?

:lol

JFC

marionbarberthe4th · Jun 25, 2013

I thought I was an anorexic bitch for being 6'1"/165lbs.? Now trayvon is a thug mma expert sprinter casing houses and high on pcp

iceberg · Jun 25, 2013

Midswat said:
So the 6'2" football player was "running" away from Zimmerman?

Did Zimmerman catch up with him and started a fist fight after telling the cops exactly where he was?

JFC

you and i seem to agree pretty strong on this one.

i need another shower.

peplaw06 · Jun 25, 2013

iceberg said:
Zimmerman was accused of being motivated by racism[3][169] and of having racially profiled Martin.[3][128][282][307] During early media coverage of the incident, Zimmerman's call to the police dispatcher was edited by NBC, shortened such that it appeared that Zimmerman had volunteered Martin's race. The unedited audio recording proved that the police dispatcher specifically asked about Martin's race, and only then did Zimmerman reveal that Martin was black. NBC apologized for the misleading edit and disciplined those involved.[308]

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he only brought up race when asked. the media "audio editing" fanned the flames long before they came back with a back page "oops".

OK?

peplaw06 · Jun 25, 2013

Midswat said:
So the 6'2" football player was "running" away from Zimmerman?

Did Zimmerman catch up with him and started a fist fight after telling the cops exactly where he was?

JFC

Zimmerman said he was running... not sure what you're getting at with this.

Are you of the impression that Trayvon was running towards Zimmerman?

MetalHead · Jun 25, 2013

peplaw06 said:
OK?

What,you didn't know NBC News doctored the 911 tape?

JBond · Jun 25, 2013

pizza or something said:
I find this to be an unkind sentiment because you take a murdered teenager to be a good thing

Not me. His victims. Both past and future. I really cannot take anyone seriously who claims to know exactly what happened. Only fools make claims about things they have no idea about. It may be murder or it may be self defense. Are you a racist? Why do you hate Hispanic Jews?

iceberg · Jun 25, 2013

peplaw06 said:
OK?

look, feel free to show me HARD EVIDENCE, not speculation, that he was racially profiling a black kid. i'm trying to show with what evidence we do in fact have that that may not necessarily be the case. do i have hard evidence? no. only what happened.

do you have hard evidence? no. but yet you feel it was racially instigated.

that's what bothers me. people letting their speculation become fact.

MetalHead · Jun 25, 2013

peplaw06 said:
Race came into play from the beginning. Zimmerman was suspicious because of Trayvon's race. That led to the rest of it.

If he hadn't been suspicious, he wouldn't have called 911. He wouldn't have followed Trayvon against the dispatcher's instructions. He wouldn't have shot Trayvon.

Really?
http://wreg.com/2012/07/12/report-zimmerman-worked-to-help-black-man-in-beating-case/

Some racist...

marionbarberthe4th · Jun 25, 2013

JBond said:
Not me. His victims. Both past and future. I really cannot take anyone seriously who claims to know exactly what happened. Only fools make claims about things they have no idea about. It may be murder or it may be self defense. Are you a racist? Why do you hate Hispanic Jews?

Would you murder your 17 year old son if he stole skittles?

iceberg · Jun 25, 2013

pizza or something said:
Would you murder your 17 year old son if he stole skittles?

what in the unholy fucktard does one have to do with the other?

NOTHING.

JBond · Jun 25, 2013

pizza or something said:
Would you murder your 17 year old son if he stole skittles?

Trayvon stole the skittles? What the fuck are you babbling about? Why do you hate Jews?

peplaw06 · Jun 25, 2013

iceberg said:
look, feel free to show me HARD EVIDENCE, not speculation, that he was racially profiling a black kid. i'm trying to show with what evidence we do in fact have that that may not necessarily be the case. do i have hard evidence? no. only what happened.

do you have hard evidence? no. but yet you feel it was racially instigated.

that's what bothers me. people letting their speculation become fact.

Circumstantial evidence is NOT speculation. My circumstantial evidence comes from the statements from neighbors that there had been burglaries in the neighborhood that were apparently committed by "black boys" per the neighbor lady quoted in Mid's article. Then Zimmerman, says "these assholes" always get away with it. Who do you think he's referring to? He assumed Trayvon was one of the burglars because he was black and walking through the neighborhood.

That's what those in the biz call circumstantial evidence. Like I said, there will be no hard evidence of what Zimmerman's assumption is, unless he stated so. Not gonna happen.

iceberg · Jun 25, 2013

peplaw06 said:
Circumstantial evidence is NOT speculation. My circumstantial evidence comes from the statements from neighbors that there had been burglaries in the neighborhood that were apparently committed by "black boys" per the neighbor lady quoted in Mid's article. Then Zimmerman, says "these assholes" always get away with it. Who do you think he's referring to? He assumed Trayvon was one of the burglars because he was black and walking through the neighborhood.

That's what those in the biz call circumstantial evidence. Like I said, there will be no hard evidence of what Zimmerman's assumption is, unless he stated so. Not gonna happen.

so if the dude was hispanic and acting the same way, what would zimmerman have done?

peplaw06 · Jun 25, 2013

MetalHead said:
What,you didn't know NBC News doctored the 911 tape?

Yes, I knew that. I don't see what it has to do with my post. Don't try to join the discussion midstream until you understand what my position is.

peplaw06 · Jun 25, 2013

iceberg said:
so if the dude was hispanic and acting the same way, what would zimmerman have done?

Oh, do you want me to speculate now? If I'm speculating, I would say that he probably wouldn't have called 911.

peplaw06 · Jun 25, 2013

MetalHead said:
Really?
http://wreg.com/2012/07/12/report-zimmerman-worked-to-help-black-man-in-beating-case/

Some racist...

Good lord.

peplaw06 said:
I'm not saying he was racist.

peplaw06 · Jun 25, 2013

pizza or something said:
Would you murder your 17 year old son if he stole skittles?

iceberg · Jun 25, 2013

peplaw06 said:
Oh, do you want me to speculate now? If I'm speculating, I would say that he probably wouldn't have called 911.

if he didn't know the guy, i'd think he still would. *anyone* walking around the back alleys of the houses, peeking in windows - primse suspect.

but fair point and i see where you're coming from.

VTA · Jun 25, 2013

pizza or something said:
You know if it was a black dude following and shooting a little white kid you would be on other side. Confesssss

If it were, it wouldn't be a national news item either. It would have come and gone like the wind and the outcome largely unknown.

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