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I think he is referring to the focus group I read about this morning. There were 10 of them and 6 actually said they were now voting for Trump, 3 for Nob Goblin and 1 still undecided.


I generally do not put any more faith in these focus groups than I do polls. I do not trust the media to be fair with any of these things.

But I do agree, this election will be close (because Trump's approval ratings are stuck around 47% and he can't get above that). It will come down to turnout. Republicans must turn out in record numbers because Democrats are experienced vote harvesters.

I suspect there will be cheating again. But I also suspect it will be confined to Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Arizona.
 

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Wow. CNN and Jake Tapper going after Harris and ABC news. This is one of the clips from the show.


This is who Kamala is. She says she has a plan, but she has no idea what that plan is because she is vacuous. She has no idea how to fix what she and Joe broke. I cannot think of a VP who has done less in her time in office than Kamala Harris.

And by the way, to say, "I am the only person on this stage with a plan" is a lie. Trump not only has a plan to fix the economy, he has already proven he can do it.
 

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Tulsi's Take


The after debate spin is almost as bad as the after-draft spin in the NFL.

I like Tulsi, but don't completely trust her. But I do not think this was one of Trump's better debate performances. Of course it is hard to debate against 2 moderators, but Trump has this compulsion where he feels he has to respond to every challenge. I think there were times when he could have deflected the moderators BS. I will say this though, despite his performance not being his best, Kamala was worse. Debates are supposed to be about substance, not a regurgitation of campaign speeches. Debates are not only to reveal the positions of the candidates but also why their positions are better for America. It is tough to do that in these debates, especially when moderators are not fair, but Kamala had every opportunity to tell the people where she stands and so many times failed to do so. "I have a plan" is saying nothing.
 

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great response by her regarding the rhetoric asserting Trump is worse than Hitler, I've been saying the exact same thing for years

I am not sure what Trump meant when he said some Democrats support killing babies after birth, but it is a fact that babies born from botched abortions are left to die and some states block doctors from attempting to keep the babies alive. That is a provable fact. It is also true that some states allow abortions on demand up to birth. I am not sure what the difference is to kill a baby 1 minute before birth or 1 minute after but Democrats and the media deny these things are true when they absolutely are true.
 

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The after debate spin is almost as bad as the after-draft spin in the NFL.

I like Tulsi, but don't completely trust her. But I do not think this was one of Trump's better debate performances. Of course it is hard to debate against 2 moderators, but Trump has this compulsion where he feels he has to respond to every challenge. I think there were times when he could have deflected the moderators BS. I will say this though, despite his performance not being his best, Kamala was worse. Debates are supposed to be about substance, not a regurgitation of campaign speeches. Debates are not only to reveal the positions of the candidates but also why their positions are better for America. It is tough to do that in these debates, especially when moderators are not fair, but Kamala had every opportunity to tell the people where she stands and so many times failed to do so. "I have a plan" is saying nothing.
Yeah I don't trust any of them 100%, but I've always liked her as a moderate level-headed Democrat. Her moderation was so rare she had to be forced out by the stupidity.
 

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She says she has a plan, but she has no idea what that plan is because she is vacuous.
I actually disagree here, she does have a plan. Her and her people want Marxism, period.

She's a pure Communist, that's her "values" that she keeps talking about. Biden turned Communist because he was a puppet and just did what he was told, his past history was far more moderate than he was as President. Kamala is not, and never has been a moderate. She's an extremist.
 

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Tik Tok doing the bidding of a fellow Communist. BANNING a fact checked (proof) video of Kamala lying.



this is an issue I think Trump is wrong about. TikTok needs to be banned because its controlled by the CCP, it has nothing to do with free speech.

He originally was going to ban it but now it seems he's switched and I dont understand why, maybe the bill that would have banned it was too broad which I red and agree. They should just fast track a bill that explicitly ban TikTok ad then if this is necessary in the future with other companies, debate it and ban via a new bill. And there should be ZERO attachments to all bills
 

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I am not sure what Trump meant when he said some Democrats support killing babies after birth, but it is a fact that babies born from botched abortions are left to die and some states block doctors from attempting to keep the babies alive. That is a provable fact. It is also true that some states allow abortions on demand up to birth. I am not sure what the difference is to kill a baby 1 minute before birth or 1 minute after but Democrats and the media deny these things are true when they absolutely are true.
Did you reply to the wrong post, your reply doesnt seem to have any relation to what I posted
 

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this is an issue I think Trump is wrong about. TikTok needs to be banned because its controlled by the CCP, it has nothing to do with free speech.

He originally was going to ban it but now it seems he's switched and I dont understand why, maybe the bill that would have banned it was too broad which I red and agree. They should just fast track a bill that explicitly ban TikTok ad then if this is necessary in the future with other companies, debate it and ban via a new bill. And there should be ZERO attachments to all bills
Musk and some others will hopefully talk some sense into him.
 

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What I find fascinating about this wholeTrump rage thing is people are so damn certain with their outrage yet so close minded. They are absolute in their rage and will not even engage in conversation with anyone who has the audacity to not see it their way or at the very least not support Trump. I've had women completely dismiss anything Vivek says simply because he endorsed Trump, she refuses to even listen to anything he says for that one reason. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water...

I havent met anyone who is a die hard Trump supporter unwilling to criticize him, most people are annoyed with his name calling and rhetoric but understand that its more likely his policies and the people that would be part of his team give the US a better chance at a better future. Whereas we can, with absolute certainty, prove with historical examples that if the Democrats are successful in dividing everyone through identify, race, color and gender, we will not be better. If they are successful in pushing this nation closer and closer to socialism, we will not be better off. And if the democrats are ever successful in price fixing, taxing the rich out of existence & taxing unrealized gains they will crush the economy & all the jobs, power and influence we have around the world.

Where will the world escape to if the US is no longer a refuge from tyranny, despotism and ruthless dictator lead regimes who think nothing of silencing their opposition by any means necessary?

God help us if the current Democratic Party gets their way
Personal bias is probably the most powerful driver of a humans’ ideology, especially if self-criticism/awareness hasn’t been a generalized factor in a persons conditioning. Facts don't matter. So many people I talk to/hear claim they hate Trump because they hate liars. Ridiculous. They’d never vote for anybody if that were the case, let alone a serial liar like Joe Biden. The clown lied about his Academic Credentials, he’s a proven plagiarizer and constantly said his son died serving in Iraq - he died in Bethesda MD of brain cancer - and the list goes on.

They’re not at all concerned about name-calling and harsh rhetoric, they’re the kings and queens of vitriol, overt racism and exclusivity.

I hear a 60+ yo woman bellowing about abortion, like she’s going to need one soon, who is angrier about abortion limitations on an 11 yo, than she is about an 11 yo needing an abortion because she was raped by an illegal immigrant, who shouldn’t have been here in the first place.

Instead of voting based on economic strength which directly affects her retirement and Medicare, she’s screaming about something that doesn’t even pertain to her. Economy, national security, crime, none of these things are important to these brain damaged individuals.

We’re not even dealing with true ideological differences, we’re seeing mass insanity on a frighteningly grand scale.
 
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