Punish Law Abiding Citizens and Ignore Criminals. Great Plan. Fucking Idiots.

[Jon88]

I'd create an environment where they have no choice but to go back home,but I would not shoot them.

They'll just cross back over in a few days. Several rubber bullets to the face would make them think twice about acting that way again when they come back.

 

[Minimalist]

Not to you,which is ok in my book.
Now go run back to Hos and tell him what you saw here.
He awaits your report.

Were you beat up a lot as a kid? Something tells me you were. You talk directly out of your ass. It couldn't have done you any good.

 

[MetalHead]

I think if laws were passed they would marginally help gun violence but mostly it's just going to end up costing the average gun owner more in taxes. I'm ok with this though. Just like cigerettes, I have no interest in guns and the more they tax you, the less they are going to tax me.

Tell me how that worked during prohibition?
Criminals don't obey the law.No alcohol laws,no drug laws,no gun laws.
Ban all you guns want and at the end of the day,you will become a victim of gun crime.
It is a proven fact.
And this taxation thing,you thing it will not affect you?
Once they start taxing ammo and guns more,they will proceed to tax everything else you fool.
You clearly don't understand your 2nd Amendment.

 

[MetalHead]

Were you beat up a lot as a kid? Something tells me you were. You talk directly out of your ass. It couldn't have done you any good.

No.I was raised by a real man.
You were raised by your daddy and his boyfriend.

 

[MetalHead]

They'll just cross back over in a few days. Several rubber bullets to the face would make them think twice about acting that way again when they come back.

I can't disagree with that.
A country with no borders is no country at all.

 

[peplaw06]

Just because violent crime is down doesn't mean that it isn't a problem.

There are lots of "problems" we have that we don't try to solve by passing laws that are contrary to the bill of rights.

About Australia, most likely criminals felt they had a better chance at these crimes now that they banned certain guns. Sexual assault rose, maybe if these women were carrying assault weapons this wouldn't have happened?

Is this sarcasm, or are you arguing against your position from the rest of this thread?

 

[Minimalist]

No.I was raised by a real man.
You were raised by your daddy and his boyfriend.

Sounds like that "real man" raised a real fucking winner. I bet you're real successful in real life.

 

[2233boys]

Wow get a room

 

[Minimalist]

Wow get a ring

FIFY...and not the kind that goes on a finger.

 

[iceberg]

Hemi... the thinkg is, they already require all of this in order for you to even purchase these types of guns. Texas is one of the most lax states as far as gun ownership. And even there you can not carry out an AR-15 or ANYTHING classed as an assualt rifle without a mandatory week wait on the background check at minimum. All these guns are serial numbered and tracked. And anything classed as an assualt or sniper rifle in most states requires ID and a permit to even buy ammo. the point is, the government doesnt fear attack from outside. the last thing they want is a bunch of citizens totally fed up with the way things are going taking matters into their own hands. Which is a big part of the reason they track any malitia group like they owe money. they use the excuse of gun violence as a reason to take guns from law abiding citizens. But in reality only about 30% at max of the violent crimes committed with guns are committed by the registered owner of the gun in question. And of the other 70%, a good portion are done when the registered owner has no idea where said named gun is if e or she even still owns it.

totally incorrect. not sure what you classify as a sniper rifle, so i'll ask what you consider a sniper rifle before i comment on that part. but you can do a standard background check and walk out the door with an AR-15 that day.

 

[Iamtdg]

totally incorrect. not sure what you classify as a sniper rifle, so i'll ask what you consider a sniper rifle before i comment on that part. but you can do a standard background check and walk out the door with an AR-15 that day.

Yup.

 

[2233boys]

I saw someone stated in this thread that you were allowed to hunt with semi automatic weapons. Not sure what the situations are in every state but in PA you aren't allowed to hunt with a semi automatic weapon. Also I read that the states that do allow the use of semi automatics limit the number of bullets in the magazine. (5 was the last I saw). Anyone know where you can find the regulations for all states? I'd be interested to see what the laws say.

As an aside, I think it is unconscionable to hunt with a semi automatic weapon. If you need more than one round you need to go back to shooting range and either sight your gun in better or practice. I consider hunting a sport and that takes the sport out of hunting. I used to skeet shoot and used a pump action 12 gauge. When I did hunt I used a single shot shotgun for small game and a 5 round bolt action 30-06 for deer. (No scope, pep sights)

I no longer hunt since I am a vegetarian but still think it is a necessary activity to support. Curious what the gun enthusiasts take is on the topic.

 

[ThaBigP]

I was talking to a marine at a bar last night who is gonna deploy this summer, so he's at Pendleton now but is usually in Yuma or Yucaipa or w/e in AZ. Asked him how he liked it, he said he'd been here before and loves it...only he doesn't like CA's gun laws. I was all what's the big deal about our gun laws, and he's all "no 30 round magazines which is pretty much all the guns I own".

I battle with it. On the one hand, guns are fun as hell. On the other, noone needs an AK. I do think any prohibition laws have, at this point, been shown to be completely useless though.

And Rosa Parks didn't neeeeed to sit in the front of the bus; the back seat was going to the same place. And nobody poofs into a cloud of smoke if they aren't allowed to petition their government for a redress of grievences. A little unlawful search and seizure never killed anybody. But, that's not the point is it? It's about rights.

 

[ThaBigP]

So weird that our prisons are full of men of faith.

They're late bloomers. Or, that's a lot like the old saying "there are no athiests in hell".

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Oh, crap. It's ThaBigP of Spintopia fame. Everyone is about to get a lesson.

 

[2233boys]

Never heard of him

 

[superpunk]

Get the aforementioned room.

 

[2233boys]

And Rosa Parks didn't neeeeed to sit in the front of the bus; the back seat was going to the same place. And nobody poofs into a cloud of smoke if they aren't allowed to petition their government for a redress of grievences. A little unlawful search and seizure never killed anybody. But, that's not the point is it? It's about rights.

I think there is a slight difference. I have no problem with people owning guns, I own some myself. I think it is perfectly reasonable for people question the purpose of semi automatic rifles with high capacity magazines. Not sure I think there should be ban on the guns but I think more regulations are warranted similar to hand gun regulations. I also see no issue with limiting magazine size. Jmo

 

[Sharkinva]

totally incorrect. not sure what you classify as a sniper rifle, so i'll ask what you consider a sniper rifle before i comment on that part. but you can do a standard background check and walk out the door with an AR-15 that day.

Not sure about your state. But in Florida, its a standard wait of atleast a week for criminal and background check to purchase any thing other than a shot gun or a single action rifle. assult rifles would be classified as anything semi-automatic that holds more than five rounds in the magazine and does not require you to manually chamber a round either by loading by hand, cocking or pumping. All pistols require a two week wait and a valid hand gun safety class permit. The only time people can get around these some what is at gun shows. But even then they have rapid background check systems and rapid checks for the hand gun class/permit. And most sniper rifles would be classed as anything with an effective range of over 1000 meters. An AR does not fall into this class because the reported max effective range is 600 meters. An AR does fall into the assualt class because it is semi auto, holds more than five rounds, and does not require a manual cocking action between shots with an effective range above 350 meters.

 

[Iamtdg]

It is different in different states. I bought a .40 cal a couple of months ago and waited 10 minutes while they ran my ID.