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Why else would we have Military bases in the middle of bumfuck Kansas except to have a ready force to protect against internal uprising.

It's really turning more and more into a police state, coincidentally after 9/11.
 

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It's really turning more and more into a police state, coincidentally after 9/11.

Kinda think that is the plan. I dont believe 9/11 was planned by our government. but i do believe they have taken advantage of it to institute the kind of police state that those in power would prefer. The Patriot act allows them to basically shred the constitution in the name of national security and all is forgiven.
 

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Why shred the Constitution because terrorists hijacked 4 planes? It makes no sense. Don't let terrorists in the country and leave us alone.
 

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Why shred the Constitution because terrorists hijacked 4 planes? It makes no sense. Don't let terrorists in the country and leave us alone.

We trained these terrorists. You do realize that dont you?? the government NEEDS a bad guy in order to trample the rights of the tax payers. North Korea is the new bad guy. Ever notice how they are painting them as the new bad guy in movies and such. If we didnt have a boogie man, the average American might stop to wonder why taxes are so high, gas keeps climbing, and why auto makers can charge an extra 20% yearly for production in a plant that they built 15 years ago. World peace is not good for government in general.
 

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We trained them and whoever raised a red flag to the FBI about how suspicious they were was told to shut the fuck up.

We clearly wanted 9/11 to happen.
 

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We trained them and whoever raised a red flag to the FBI about how suspicious they were was told to shut the fuck up.

We clearly wanted 9/11 to happen.

IM not going to go that far. Because if it ever came out, there would be a mass revolt and you would have to think the government knows that. But I will agree that they didnt do enough to stop it. And the government actively seeks to make sure that these things will happen from time to time. the easiest way to justify irrational reactions by ones self, is to blame it on the actions of others.
 

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IM not going to go that far. Because if it ever came out, there would be a mass revolt and you would have to think the government knows that. But I will agree that they didnt do enough to stop it. And the government actively seeks to make sure that these things will happen from time to time. the easiest way to justify irrational reactions by ones self, is to blame it on the actions of others.

I noticed that North Korea is now the boogeyman as seen in the news and in Olympus Has Fallen (terrible movie by the way).

The government has silenced a lot of people, especially survivors of the attacks. I'm not getting into it in this thread. It's been rehashed over and over and some people will always refuse to believe it.

By the way, pick out a good avatar. The mods are serious about everyone having one here.
 

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I noticed that North Korea is now the boogeyman as seen in the news and in Olympus Has Fallen (terrible movie by the way).

The government has silenced a lot of people, especially survivors of the attacks. I'm not getting into it in this thread. It's been rehashed over and over and some people will always refuse to believe it.

By the way, pick out a good avatar. The mods are serious about everyone having one here.


Guess I will have to do tha avatar thing then. And yes I agree that the majority of people in this country dont want to open their eyes. affraid of what they might actually see and have to react.
 

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It's really turning more and more into a police state, coincidentally after 9/11.

all the more reason to be able to defend ourselves. why is the government playing so hard to take that away and put our "faith" in them?
 

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I noticed that North Korea is now the boogeyman as seen in the news and in Olympus Has Fallen (terrible movie by the way).

The government has silenced a lot of people, especially survivors of the attacks. I'm not getting into it in this thread. It's been rehashed over and over and some people will always refuse to believe it.

By the way, pick out a good avatar. The mods are serious about everyone having one here.

so if the government is keeping people quiet so they can rule our lives with an iron fist, why are you so willing to give up guns to defend ourselves from such an option?

quite a catch 22 you put yourself in.

our gov is blowing up buildings to dominate us.

here, have my guns.

pick a side, dude.
 

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Why else would we have Military bases in the middle of bumfuck Kansas except to have a ready force to protect against internal uprising.

and thailand. we need to ensure we keep things civil there.
or anywhere in the world, to be honest.

usually done for politics moreso than military.
 

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We trained these terrorists. You do realize that dont you?? the government NEEDS a bad guy in order to trample the rights of the tax payers. North Korea is the new bad guy. Ever notice how they are painting them as the new bad guy in movies and such. If we didnt have a boogie man, the average American might stop to wonder why taxes are so high, gas keeps climbing, and why auto makers can charge an extra 20% yearly for production in a plant that they built 15 years ago. World peace is not good for government in general.

you do realize that china was set to be the bad guys the new "red dawn" until they said "stop it" and we moved to north korea and russia.

to link hollywood to politics is just kinda butt-nugget stupid.
 

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Why else would we have Military bases in the middle of bumfuck Kansas except to have a ready force to protect against internal uprising.

Or because it'd be really fucking inconvenient to have all the military bases on the coasts.

Probably also pretty hard to recruit people to the reserve if they have to travel from bumfuck Kansas to the east coast or west coast just to get their couple weekends per year in.
 

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[video=youtube;CsLx5ISBXw4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLx5ISBXw4[/video]

revolvers will be next to go. :)

8 rounds in 1 second.

What the hell are they calculating at the end of that? Don't you just need a stopwatch?
 

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so if the government is keeping people quiet so they can rule our lives with an iron fist, why are you so willing to give up guns to defend ourselves from such an option?

quite a catch 22 you put yourself in.

our gov is blowing up buildings to dominate us.

here, have my guns.

pick a side, dude.

I don't think we should give up all of our guns, but there's no reason why anyone needs a gun with a 20 or 40 round MAGAZINE.

I don't care if its in the Constitution. Find something else to do on the weekends besides shooting things with your big assault rifle. It's stupid.
 

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I don't think we should give up all of our guns, but there's no reason why anyone needs a gun with a 20 or 40 round MAGAZINE.

I don't care if its in the Constitution. Find something else to do on the weekends besides shooting things with your big assault rifle. It's stupid.

again, you assume to know what i do with what i have. if my intentions are NOT to waste a theater or school, what difference does it make on how many bullets are in my gun at any given time? the only reason you seem to give a damn is because the liberals cry foul and those who don't even shoot guns cry out with them.

it's just as stupid to run around telling people what they can and can't do cause YOU don't like it.
 

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I meant "you" in general. Like you said, I have no idea what you do on the weekends.

I've always thought that about assault weapons. If we were about to be invaded by the North Koreans, then I wouldn't be against them. We haven't been invaded since the 1700's though.
 
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