PENTAGON: Sharing Christian Faith Could Lead to Court Martial... Charges of Treason

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I stopped going to church a year or two ago because the preacher basically went off on a tangent chastizing the congregation for not doing enough for the church.
 
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Iamtdg said:
I am agnostic. So, for you to say that so definitively offends even me. You are being wildly presumptuous and pompous. There is absolutely no way you can say there isn't a greater power than us. No more than the Christians can say that it's a fact that there is a God. To do so would be just as presumptuous. Nobody knows for sure either way.
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Your view is understandable. There is so much that is unexplained in all major religions. The Bible raises as many questions as it answers. I am a Christian with an open mind. My areas of doubt comes from the fact that other men has passed this information down through the ages. There was men that decided what the whole Christian faith would believe. I doubt the people that gathered this info and decided what books went into the Bible. I don't trust these men to be mistake free. Humans don't have a real reliable ability to pass on info without putting their spin on it. I feel like there is a bunch of stuff lost or threw out that could be just as valid as the books of the Bible. I just don't trust other humans is my point, I guess.
 
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I bet God is okay with the gays but some ancient gaybashers were all like eff that I'm adding that he hates gays and stuff.
 
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Jacko said:
Your view is understandable. There is so much that is unexplained in all major religions. The Bible raises as many questions as it answers. I am a Christian with an open mind. My areas of doubt comes from the fact that other men has passed this information down through the ages. There was men that decided what the whole Christian faith would believe. I doubt the people that gathered this info and decided what books went into the Bible. I don't trust these men to be mistake free. Humans don't have a real reliable ability to pass on info without putting their spin on it. I feel like there is a bunch of stuff lost or threw out that could be just as valid as the books of the Bible. I just don't trust other humans is my point, I guess.
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I was raised a PK, so a lot of what stemmed my doubt was anger at the Church. But, once the doubt started, and I started reading other opinions the doubt blossomed into full on agnosticism. It kills my Dad that I have lost faith, but he is understanding of the daily effort I put into my current belief structure. Nothing is off the table for me, and I'm very open-minded, but as I stand right now I can't believe that Jesus was the divine son of God. Or that there even is a God as described in the Bible.
 
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For someone so sure that they're right and everyone else is wrong, you sure do your damnedest to avoid discussing the topic.
 
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It would be perfect if someone posted that chat session right now. The one Lons posted where jon88 was talking about being gay or something.
 
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peplaw06 said:
For someone so sure that they're right and everyone else is wrong, you sure do your damnedest to avoid discussing the topic.
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I would just like to throw my 2 cents in and move on. I didn't know it would anger so many people. I don't feel like getting into a debate about religion. So next time I'll just stay out of it.
 
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Sheik said:
It would be perfect if someone posted that chat session right now. The one Lons posted where jon88 was talking about being gay or something.
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No that was fake and was really creepy.
 
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