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I liked Herman Cain more than any of the Republican presidential canidates and would have voted for him.

I was a strong Cain supporter and was extremely disappointed that they (Repubs and Dems) colluded to get him out of the race.

He was definitely the best candidate in either part IMO. Loved his ideas.

He has replaced Neil Boortz now and is on the radio again daily.
 

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However, all human beings in the world today are classified as Homo sapiens sapiens. Scientists today admit that, biologically, there really is only one race of humans. For instance, a scientist at the Advancement of Science Convention in Atlanta stated, “Race is a social construct derived mainly from perceptions conditioned by events of recorded history, and it has no basic biological reality.” This person went on to say, “Curiously enough, the idea comes very close to being of American manufacture.”

Just saying

Was this bit of information wrapped around a piece of bazooka bubble gum?

Yeah, America created racism. Let's forget the fact that black slaves were sold to white men by Northern African/semitic peoples and that slavery is still in practice today, with Arabs enslaving blacks when not murdering them. We can also forget the entire history of slavery which predates most popularly known empires, which believe it or not predate the United States.

He was so sure of his findings that he was easily identified as 'this person'. lol
 
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Was this bit of information wrapped around a piece of bazooka bubble gum?

Yeah, America created racism. Let's forget the fact that black slaves were sold to white men by Northern African/semitic peoples and that slavery is still in practice today, with Arabs enslaving blacks when not murdering them. We can also forget the entire history of slavery which predates most popularly known empires, which believe it or not predate the United States.

He was so sure of his findings that he was easily identified as 'this person'. lol

Yes bazooka bubble gum wrappers are more insightful then most of the retards posting in this thread.
 

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I don't care what race you are. I am pointing out that you
should have pride in you race. You think that is racist.

You have a cartoon avatar and with a gay user name and
you have a problem with Kid Rock. For some reason, that makes
sense.

I've never gotten the "race pride" thing.

What's there to be proud of? You were born white, black, asian, martian or klingon and don't have any idea what it means to be anything else. It's like saying you are proud of your hair color. You neither chose or had any ability to control any aspect of your makeup. You're proud because you are? Is this a twist on Descarte, "I am, therefore I'm proud"? I don't suppose if you had been born Puerto Rican that you'd be depressed and have your head filled with thoughts of "I wish I were anglo-celtic".

I guess what I am wondering is, what exactly is there to be proud of?
 
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I've never gotten the "race pride" thing.

What's there to be proud of? You were born white, black, asian, martian or klingon and don't have any idea what it means to be anything else. It's like saying you are proud of your hair color. You neither chose or had any ability to control any aspect of your makeup. You're proud because you are? Is this a twist on Descarte, "I am, therefore I'm proud"? I don't suppose if you had been born Puerto Rican that you'd be depressed and have your head filled with thoughts of "I wish I were anglo-celtic".

I guess what I am wondering is, what exactly is there to be proud of?
exactly
 

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Was this bit of information wrapped around a piece of bazooka bubble gum?

Yeah, America created racism. Let's forget the fact that black slaves were sold to white men by Northern African/semitic peoples and that slavery is still in practice today, with Arabs enslaving blacks when not murdering them. We can also forget the entire history of slavery which predates most popularly known empires, which believe it or not predate the United States.

He was so sure of his findings that he was easily identified as 'this person'. lol

The Roman empire enslaved millions. Where is the outrage?
 

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I've never gotten the "race pride" thing.

What's there to be proud of? You were born white, black, asian, martian or klingon and don't have any idea what it means to be anything else. It's like saying you are proud of your hair color. You neither chose or had any ability to control any aspect of your makeup. You're proud because you are? Is this a twist on Descarte, "I am, therefore I'm proud"? I don't suppose if you had been born Puerto Rican that you'd be depressed and have your head filled with thoughts of "I wish I were anglo-celtic".

I guess what I am wondering is, what exactly is there to be proud of?

If you don't get it, it will be a waste of time trying to explain it to you. It is a matter of pride in your race and culture. If you have none, it is your loss. That goes for any race and culture.
 

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If you don't get it, it will be a waste of time trying to explain it to you. It is a matter of pride in your race and culture. If you have none, it is your loss. That goes for any race and culture.

I don't get it because it makes little sense and nobody has ever really put forth a rationale argument as to why anyone should feel pride in something as superficial as skin pigmentation. If you can be the first, I'd be more than willing to listen.

I'm dead serious, I do not see any reason why anyone would be "proud" of it. I also don't see why anyone would be ashamed of it either. You are what you are, you didn't do anything significant to lay claim to it, and there's absolutely nothing you can do to change it if there ever were a situation in which someone was ashamed of it.

If you can't explain it beyond the superficial level that's fine. If you can, I'd love to hear it.

Furthermore, if you're going to say it applies to all cultures then what the fuck is so special in the first place if all cultures and races should be equally proud? I don't suppose having 10 toes is a source of pride for you.
 

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I've never gotten the "race pride" thing.

What's there to be proud of? You were born white, black, asian, martian or klingon and don't have any idea what it means to be anything else. It's like saying you are proud of your hair color. You neither chose or had any ability to control any aspect of your makeup. You're proud because you are? Is this a twist on Descarte, "I am, therefore I'm proud"? I don't suppose if you had been born Puerto Rican that you'd be depressed and have your head filled with thoughts of "I wish I were anglo-celtic".

I guess what I am wondering is, what exactly is there to be proud of?

idk, some might. Think Michael Jackson.

Also, why did Chris Rock need to invest in and come out with a movie called "Good Hair"?
 

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I don't get it because it makes little sense and nobody has ever really put forth a rationale argument as to why anyone should feel pride in something as superficial as skin pigmentation. If you can be the first, I'd be more than willing to listen.

I'm dead serious, I do not see any reason why anyone would be "proud" of it. I also don't see why anyone would be ashamed of it either. You are what you are, you didn't do anything significant to lay claim to it, and there's absolutely nothing you can do to change it if there ever were a situation in which someone was ashamed of it.

If you can't explain it beyond the superficial level that's fine. If you can, I'd love to hear it.

Furthermore, if you're going to say it applies to all cultures then what the fuck is so special in the first place if all cultures and races should be equally proud? I don't suppose having 10 toes is a source of pride for you.

It is not a matter of skin color. It is a matter of culture and accomplishments that is unique to each race. All races are not equal at all things. If you look throughout history there are certain characteristics that each race has. Some good and some bad. Each race and culture has their own accomplishments to be proud of. You response may be that you don't see why I should have pride in something that I hsve no control over. That position can be shot down quickly. Most people are proud of their families. From your stance, that is not something to be proud of because you are born into a family and you have no control over it. The fact remains that people are proud of their mother, father, children, etc.

Should the black community be proud of Obama? After all, they had little to do with him being president. They are proud of him and I don't blame them. Pride sometimes comes about because a person is a part of something. In my case, I am proud to be a member of a race that has
 

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More semanctic tapdamncing. I swear its like I Im reading a Kaln intro pamphlet.

"Its not about skin color. It's about cultural accomplishments based on skin color."

"The Romans did it." Again "He did it too" doesn't work in kindergarten either.
 

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All I said is that you were painting a picture of him because of his avatar. Which you were.

The Tupac and Biggie examples were to show they promoted thug behavior, not that they were black.

No I didn't I was pointing the irony out between his avatar and comments of 'despising white trash.' It lacks veractiy when you avatar is a guy that has stereotyped himself as white trash. I am not painting Jack as Kidd Rock. It was the contrast not the compare. Critical thinking.
 

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Please don't speak on subjects that you know nothing about. The term Anglo-Celtic is a term used in educational circles way before I started using it. The Celtic portion of the term, does not only appy to the Irish.
There are seven Celtic nations that are recognized.

lol hipster
 
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I think it's the need to Identify with a team, or group. Everybody has that instinct. Even if you feel ostracized like an emo, you're still on team emo.

Like why would you leave nicaragua on a broken door to come to America then rock the Nicaraguan pride?
 

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I think it's the need to Identify with a team, or group. Everybody has that instinct. Even if you feel ostracized like an emo, you're still on team emo.

Like why would you leave nicaragua on a broken door to come America then rock the Nicaraguan pride?
Kinda like the illegal immigrants from Mexico marching in the streets of the US while displaying the Mexican flag and demanding citizenship.
 

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The flow of this debate, unfortunately, is a microcosm of what's wrong with our society. If you disagree with the President or this government's policies, you'll eventually be labeled a racist. Sooner or later, most every debate of this nature will turn in that direction.

The irony is that Fuzzy brought up the racism angle almost immediately on the first page of this thread and then hangs the racist label on another poster. That's pretty lame and it's a shame that liberals view politics in terms of black and white and I had hoped that some of these undertones would have gone out the window after we elected our first black President but I was wrong, it's only been accentuated: disagree with his policies, you're a racist; believe we need to cut entitlement spending, you're a racist; if you're a white liberal from the South, you're a racist.

And another irony is that Fuzz wants to lay it on Jacko for his Anglo-Celtic "pride" but probably has no clue this is "Black History Month" where we celebrate achievements by African-Americans.

This thread started on the 15th. I didn't start posting in til the 17th. I just said that the white vote is losing the electorate as the boomers die off. I also positied that Jack would not like the direction the country is going. He concureed saying that the he doesn't but it will goes in cycles. I then talked about political history from 1864 to 1994 demonstrating that there were only 2 swings of power in that time.

I didn't post the following day. You can only fuck off at work so much. But in the interim SP pointed out how Southern states especially the Deep South take more social services then they pay in taxes and its hypocritical.

Then Jacko immediately follows up how he is proud to be a white hipster. Boudica and those Celtic tribes were smashed into oblivion by Roman legions 2000 years ago FWIW. Fronting like you are anything more than a famine refugee or a scotch irish transplant is fun I guess.

Regardless, you need to understand that due to my former endeavors, I used to be around all manner of skins and sharps and the like. I know what it is.

A simple google scholar search indicates that the 'Anglo-Celtic' us and them rhetoric is big shit in Australia. No doubt that is where the hipster got it from.

http://www.uws.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/27114/AJSI2004_Dunnetal.pdf

I did n't just come in here and start decrying racist. I saw anglo-celtic white pride rhetoric which is associated with all manner of racist groups.
 

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More semanctic tapdamncing. I swear its like I Im reading a Kaln intro pamphlet.

"Its not about skin color. It's about cultural accomplishments based on skin color."

"The Romans did it." Again "He did it too" doesn't work in kindergarten either.
Once again you are putting words in my mouth that are diluted to suit your
agenda. You can't help yourself. It works that way when you are defending a ignorant position.

I have read different versions of the Klan handbook. My opinions puts me in a position where I wouldn't be welcomed in their organization. You have little knowledge on the subject or you would know that.
 
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