In other news.... Convienently overshadowed at the moment...

[dbair1967]

Trump would lose by 15 points to Sanders.

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Dude, Sanders had zero chance to win. It'd been Reagan/Mondale again.

 

[peplaw06]

Oh shit, sorry, my mistake.

I've been with him from day one. I don't pretend there aren't warts, there are. And some of the things you dislike about him are things I like about him.

I respect Peplaw a great deal, and I think he has valid arguments against Trump. He won't like what I'm about to say, but my main concern is the SCOTUS appointees.

He could be right on his position(s) on Trump. The problem is, we know, without a single doubt, Hillary will tip the scales for 20-30 years in that regard

I'm concerned about SCOTUS appointments whether it's Trump or Hillary. I think Hillary's policies are on the table, and we pretty much know she's appointing progressive judges.

The problem I have with Trump is I have no idea what he's going to do. He doesn't talk policy. He doesn't seem to have a coherent and consistent platform. He could appoint a strict constitutionalist, or he may appoint a progressive justice just like GHW Bush appointing Justice Souter. I believe he's only interested in saying whatever he thinks people want to hear to gather their support. Those allegations of things he's said "off the record" about using the wall as a negotiating tactic or letting the VP handle foreign and domestic policy... I don't doubt they are true. Literally his biggest campaign talking point, and he's already told people he's just posturing? Come on.

If I literally had no choice but one of these two, and I had to vote, then I'd probably vote for him. But that whole "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't" thing has some play in it.

Luckily, I have another choice... and while Johnson has his warts too, I agree with him more often than not. I can't say that about any other candidate.

 

[peplaw06]

We may and probably will be screwed in the future as our kids are brainwashed into socialism, but I don't think we're there yet.

This is definitely happening... And I haven't heard anything from Trump about the educational system. The Dept of Education needs to be abolished, and Johnson is campaigning on that. One of his biggest draws IMO.

 

[onlyonenow]

have to laugh at the lawyer defending Hilary. No surprise there. No one with a brain should want Hilary as president.

 

[Sheik]

Why can't Pep both vote for Johnson and oppose Hillary?

 

[peplaw06]

have to laugh at the lawyer defending Hilary. No surprise there. No one with a brain should want Hilary as president.

Where did I defend Hillary, you fucking moron?

 

[peplaw06]

Why can't Pep both vote for Johnson and oppose Hillary?

Technically, it can't be any other way. I only get one vote.

Numbnuts Republican shills can't wrap their head around voting for someone who doesn't have a R or a D by their name.

 

[Sheik]

facebook not allowing Assange to post the link to the emails on his Facebook page.

Fuckin liberal douchebag, Zuckerberg.

 

[Sheik]

I'll personally fly to the Ecuador Embassy and suck Assange's dick if he leaks emails between the Clinton's and Lorretta Lynch proving the FBI investigation was corrupt.

Balls in your court, Assange.

 

[Sheik]

And I hate flying.

 

[dbair1967]

This is definitely happening... And I haven't heard anything from Trump about the educational system. The Dept of Education needs to be abolished, and Johnson is campaigning on that. One of his biggest draws IMO.

Trump says he is for school choice

 

[dbair1967]

I'm concerned about SCOTUS appointments whether it's Trump or Hillary. I think Hillary's policies are on the table, and we pretty much know she's appointing progressive judges.

The problem I have with Trump is I have no idea what he's going to do. He doesn't talk policy. He doesn't seem to have a coherent and consistent platform. He could appoint a strict constitutionalist, or he may appoint a progressive justice just like GHW Bush appointing Justice Souter. I believe he's only interested in saying whatever he thinks people want to hear to gather their support. Those allegations of things he's said "off the record" about using the wall as a negotiating tactic or letting the VP handle foreign and domestic policy... I don't doubt they are true. Literally his biggest campaign talking point, and he's already told people he's just posturing? Come on.

If I literally had no choice but one of these two, and I had to vote, then I'd probably vote for him. But that whole "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't" thing has some play in it.

Luckily, I have another choice... and while Johnson has his warts too, I agree with him more often than not. I can't say that about any other candidate.

Trump put out there who he considered the strong candidates for SCOTUS was that he was going to support and said he'd either nominate "one of them or somebody similar to them".

As for Johnson, if he most aligns with what you agree with you should vote for him and not think twice about it.

 

[dbair1967]

I'll personally fly to the Ecuador Embassy and suck Assange's dick if he leaks emails between the Clinton's and Lorretta Lynch proving the FBI investigation was corrupt.

Balls in your court, Assange.

 

[dbair1967]

facebook not allowing Assange to post the link to the emails on his Facebook page.

Fuckin liberal douchebag, Zuckerberg.

Suckerberg is definitely on my list of most hated individuals and has been for quite some time. He's just like the rest of the left, corrupt as hell.

 

[dbair1967]

Technically, it can't be any other way. I only get one vote.

Numbnuts Republican shills can't wrap their head around voting for someone who doesn't have a R or a D by their name.

Eh. The same can be said about the other side though too.

I wont say that I'd never vote for a democrat (although I haven't to date in my lifetime) but its extremely unlikely with them moving the party as far to the left as they have. I would say that I'd definitely consider a 3rd party candidate if that person aligned with enough of the issues I agreed with and the R candidate was a puke like John McCain or Lindsey Graham.

Honestly I don't see Trump as a true R candidate but I'm definitely behind him for this election.

 

[dbair1967]

Wasserkunt-Schultz not being allowed to speak now at DNC

 

[peplaw06]

Trump says he is for school choice

Has there ever been a president who said they were against school choice? That's not enough.

I looked it up and Trump has stated he's against common core and is for school choice. But he's also made statements in the past that indicate he wants to keep the Dept of Education operational and "fix what's wrong." That's not the answer. The answer is to get the feds out of it altogether and let states / localities set school standards. Johnson is very forward thinking as well about online schooling.

 

[bbgun]

Trump will always underperform in these polls because a sizable amount of people will be too embarrassed to admit they're voting for him -- even if it's an anonymous survey over the phone.

 

[dbair1967]

Has there ever been a president who said they were against school choice?

Yep. Probably 100% of democrats and some republicans.

It's ridiculous.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Trump will always underperform in these polls because a sizable amount of people will be too embarrassed to admit they're voting for him -- even if it's an anonymous survey over the phone.

Even if the polls show her with a comfortable lead the night before the election, that Brexit vote won't let her rest easy until the votes are in. Very similar dynamic.