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I guess you have forgotten that Obama has claimed the right to kill American citizens without charges, indictments, or due process.
It's wrong
I don't think acts of war are given due process.

What about Timothy McVeigh? Was he given his Miranda Rights and given Due Process? Were his acts any less than an act of War? Just because this guy is a Muslium doesn't mean he should afforded anything less.
 

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You're right I don't, because it makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense. Our foundational rights apply to us. Not those who try to attack and attack our foundational rights liberty and living without this crap on our shores.
 

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What about Timothy McVeigh? Was he given his Miranda Rights and given Due Process? Just because this guy is a Muslium doesn't mean he should afforded anything less.

Hence the abuse of due process. This is what I meant about bad precedents.
 
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It makes perfect sense. Our foundational rights apply to us. Not those who try to attack and attack our foundational rights liberty and living without this crap on our shores.

Hence the abuse of due process. This is what I meant about bad precedents.

What if the government deemed you a threat for whatever reason, should your rights be suspended?

No.
 

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What if I were caught in the act? What if the shadow of doubt was removed by my own actions?
These aren't people who were going quietly going about life then grabbed off their couches, under suspicion.
Then they'd deserve due process.

There is a difference.
 

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Acts of war should be handled by a military tribunal. This was not a tax day event as first floated by the regieme.
 
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What if I were caught in the act? What if the shadow of doubt was removed by my own actions?
These aren't people who were going quietly going about life then grabbed off their couches, under suspicion.
Then they'd deserve due process.

There is a difference.
Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments but hey you know what happened and how it happened.
 
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What about Timothy McVeigh? Was he given his Miranda Rights and given Due Process? Were his acts any less than an act of War? Just because this guy is a Muslium doesn't mean he should afforded anything less.
The Supreme Court has implemented exceptions to Miranda, if I heard this correctly last night. McVeigh was one of the first exceptions, and this will most likely fall under another one of those exceptions.
 
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From Legalmatch.com:

Are there Exceptions to the Miranda Rule?
The following are situations where courts have deemed that Miranda is not necessitated:

Even if a suspect is in custody, officer's statements do not meet the standard of custodial interrogation unless they are either express or equivalent statements, which are reasonably likely to illicit an incriminating response
Police hostage negotiations are not interrogations
A secretly taped meeting between a suspect and a police officer, where the suspect attended voluntarily
While in custody, Miranda is not required if the suspect is unaware that he is voluntarily talking to a police officer
Police may ask standard booking question without necessitating Miranda warnings
The police may question a suspect without reading Miranda warnings if such questioning is necessary for public safety
 
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Acts of war should be handled by a military tribunal. This was not a tax day event as first floated by the regieme.

The hypocrisy of some of you knows no bounds.

If someone said you should lose all your rights to own a gun because you're a threat or you don't need them you'd be clamoring about Constitutional rights (rightfully so)

Lone Americans accused of committing a heinous act are due a day in court.
 

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The hypocrisy of some of you knows no bounds.

If someone said you should lose all your rights to own a gun because you're a threat or you don't need them you'd be clamoring about Constitutional rights (rightfully so)

Lone Americans accused of committing a heinous act are due a day in court.

You're arguing an entirely different issue and I can only guess it's because you feel the need to reply.
Making a flimsy attempt to correlate suspicion with actual evidence.

These guys were chased, shot at and fire returned. The survivor needs to be questioned, not given due process afforded to citizens of this country who aren't engaged in acts of war against it.
 

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The hypocrisy of some of you knows no bounds.

If someone said you should lose all your rights to own a gun because you're a threat or you don't need them you'd be clamoring about Constitutional rights (rightfully so)

Lone Americans accused of committing a heinous act are due a day in court.

I do not disagree with you. I said acts of war.
 
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You are hypocrites. Suspend the constitution and rights of an American Citizens because it fits your agenda. Act of war by two individuals ok, with what we know that's speculation and I see claiming that as a way of stripping citizens of their rights.

He is an American Citizen who reportedly committed a crime. He should go to trail, face a jury and face his punishment once it is handed down. Any other way is unconstitutional and does more damage then the gun laws you two clamor about.
 

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You are hypocrites. Suspend the constitution and rights of an American Citizens because it fits your agenda. Act of war by two individuals ok, with what we know that's speculation and I see claiming that as a way of stripping citizens of their rights.

He is an American Citizen who reportedly committed a crime. He should go to trail, face a jury and face his punishment once it is handed down. Any other way is unconstitutional and does more damage then the gun laws you two clamor about.

It appears you are uniformed regarding the details preceding the attack. Do you know where they received their training. Do you know the source of funding? This is the third terrorist the FBI has interviewed and released to commit a terror act. A recruitment center, ft hood, and now Boston.

I disagree with Obama that he has a right to kill Americans, but there must be line somewhere. Where is the line is the question.

Suspending citizenship is one possible solution.
 
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Cracker Jack Institute of Constitutional understanding. :roythehammer
 
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Your whole post doesn't matter, he is an American citizen. He has a right to due process under the law. Make all the conections you want, even American Spies have been afforded trails, even when caught in the act.
 

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Your whole post doesn't matter, he is an American citizen. He has a right to due process under the law. Make all the conections you want, even American Spies have been afforded trails, even when caught in the act.

He was not a natural born citizen. He was an import. We hand out our rights to foreign nationals way to easily. Revoking terrorist's citizenship should be considered.
 
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