Cowboys owner Jones on coaches' influence on player evaluation: 'If it got down to it

[superpunk]

its the circle of power.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What's sad is Jerry is expert at making fans feel good, then ripping their stomachs out afterwards. Lookit...

Jerry brings in Parcells, so fans buy into the idea in their own minds that he wanted to change his ways. Then Jerry announces sometime after Parcells leaves that he's always had the final decision.

Not too long ago, he hints, if not outright guarantees, that Jason Garrett will have full autonomy to construct his roster. Now he says that if it comes down to a tie between who the scouts want at each pick, or Garrett, or any other coach, that the scouts win by default. The reason being that they are scouts. Rubbish.

Again I ask, where does Jerry come off with the chutzpah to make that decision?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So you believe if Garrett does not win the tie breaker he does not want the player on his team at all.

Thats some great logic there. unce

It could mean either/or.

 

[Iamtdg]

Jerry says a lot of things. Too god damn many things. He actually means about 20% of those things.

 

[Sheik]

So you believe if Garrett does not win the tie breaker he does not want the player on his team at all.

Thats some great logic there. unce

Question:

Hypothetical.

Garrett on draft day says: "DeCastro would really put this offense over the top. He'd open my play book way up. We could really be a duel run pass offense.

Scout: I like Poe. He's got a nice ass.

Jerry is qualified to make the right choice?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Question:

Hypothetical.

Garrett on draft day says: "DeCastro would really put this offense over the top. He'd open my play book way up. We could really be a duel run pass offense.

Scout: I like Poe. He's got a nice ass.

Jerry is qualified to make the right choice?

He owns the team he-YUK

 

[superpunk]

Question:

Hypothetical.

Garrett on draft day says: "DeCastro would really put this offense over the top. He'd open my play book way up. We could really be a duel run pass offense.

Scout: I like Poe. He's got a nice ass.

Jerry is qualified to make the right choice?

they probably use an intense algorithm that weighs Garrett's described needs v. Player Value multiplied by HL (Heart Level) to the square root of How Does he Look in the Shower

 

[Iamtdg]

they probably use an intense algorithm that weighs Garrett's described needs v. Player Value multiplied by HL (Heart Level) to the square root of How Does he Look in the Shower

Hell no, Jerry has a huge white board he uses to line out his pics. That way he can show the entire world who we are interested in.

 

[Sheik]

I am going to agree with sp.

 

[Rock Slamdance]

Sweetness. Another board to be able to bash Jerry on.

There should be more of these. :thumbsup

Only on Tuesdays...and look out for Hostile, amigo.

 

[jiggyfly]

Question:

Hypothetical.

Garrett on draft day says: "DeCastro would really put this offense over the top. He'd open my play book way up. We could really be a duel run pass offense.

Scout: I like Poe. He's got a nice ass.

Jerry is qualified to make the right choice?

When have I ever said Jerry is qualified to make any choices?

The question does not fit the discussion, I have never said Jerry is qualified to make these decisions, my point has been that Jerry saying there will be no players on this team that Garret does not want still holds true.

Do you think him wanting Decastro over Poe means he does not want Poe on the team?

 

[Sheik]

When have I ever said Jerry is qualified to make any choices?

The question does not fit the discussion I have never said Jerry is qualified to make these decisions, my point has been that Jerry saying there will be no players on this team that Garret does not want still holds true, using the scouts being a tie breaker logic.

That's debatable. What if Garrett hates player A, but scout says otherwise?

The only way Garrett approves of every player is, well, if he has the final say.

Even if my scenario plays out one time. It's still true.

And I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, I was trying to understand where you stand on Jerry breaking ties.

 

[Sheik]

The only way it would always work would be if Garrett gives a list of players that he wants scouted. Scout then scouts only those players. Only those players are brought to the evaluation process.

 

[jiggyfly]

That's debatable. What if Garrett hates player A, but scout says otherwise?

The only way Garrett approves of every player is, well, if he has the final say.

Even if my scenario plays out one time. It's still true.

And I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, I was trying to understand where you stand on Jerry breaking ties.

If that happens it would be dead wrong but I was telling Bob that in my opinion Garret should not have the last word in drafting decisions when both players are being considered.

I don't particularly trust either to have Carte Blanch when making these decisions, Garret has not shown to be a personnel expert either.

Garret should have plenty of input into the type of players he wants but should not be able to overrule everybody else at the table.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If that happens it would be dead wrong but I was telling Bob that in my opinion Garret should not have the last word in drafting decisions when both players are being considered.

I don't particularly trust either to have Carte Blanch when making these decisions, Garret has not shown to be a personnel expert either.

Garret should have plenty of input into the type of players he wants but should not be able to overrule everybody else at the table.

So who should make the final decisions then? And why?

 

[Sheik]

If that happens it would be dead wrong but I was telling Bob that in my opinion Garret should not have the last word in drafting decisions when both players are being considered.

I don't particularly trust either to have Carte Blanch when making these decisions, Garret has not shown to be a personnel expert either.

Garret should have plenty of input into the type of players he wants but should not be able to overrule everybody else at the table.

I agree with all that.

 

[jiggyfly]

So who should make the final decisions then? And why?

If you go back and read my post you can get the answer to this question, multiple times.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If you go back and read my post you can get the answer to this question, multiple times.

So you're going with the stupid Jerry Jones answer?

RRRRRRRRRR wrong answer.

 

[jiggyfly]

I agree with all that.

I really think Ciskowski serves as the actual final word for the most part.

But I also realize Jerry can get enamored with certain guys and overrule everybody but it seems he has been showing a bit of constraint lately.

 

[jiggyfly]

So you're going with the stupid Jerry Jones answer?

RRRRRRRRRR wrong answer.

Dam you got me, I surrender.