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Over past 3 years, no one has restructured more contracts than Steelers

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The Steelers are among the leaders in restructuring contracts since the lockout ended in August 2011, when the cap dropped $3 million after the uncapped 2010 season.

They have reworked 13 deals — Roethlisberger three times; Timmons twice; Brown, Heath Miller, Chris Kemoeatu, James Harrison, Brett Keisel, LaMarr Woodley, Ike Taylor, Willie Colon once — that pushed $54.7 million into future years.


educate yourself or keep getting owned
 

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What's the point of having $10 million in cap space if there's no one to spend it on? Hoping someone consequential will be cut on June 1? Extending Spencer?
 
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There absolutely is arguing it. Without the unforeseeable penalty, maybe we also sign Grubbs last season. Instead, we obviously viewed corner as a bigger need and went that way, while at the same time picking up a new set of guards.
So your argument is that we didn't sign Grubbs last season because we didn't have the cap space... but that was because of an unforeseeable penalty, so that's ok? #comeon

If your argument is "we didn't sign the marquis free agent at position X" every offseason, therefore we're in "cap hell", you have a really weak argument. Especially when we've signed other marquis free agents at other positions of need in that exact same offseason.
1) That's not my argument.

2) You're arguing that we can't point out specific examples of people we've been hampered from signing, but when I brought up a name, you said we didn't have interest. Cop out.

3) Brandon Carr is the only "marquee" free agent we've signed since TO.
 

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What's the point of having $10 million in cap space if there's no one to spend it on? Hoping someone consequential will be cut on June 1? Extending Spencer?

maybe we can finally sign all these shitty free agents that noone wants that the "no cap space" morons have been crying about.

Winston and Clabo here we come. Noone else wants you, but the forum wizards have spoken.
 
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They reworked 13 deals in 3 years!???!?!?!?! OMG THATS AN AVERAGE OF LIKE 4.3333333333333 A YEAR!!!!!

We've done 7 this year alone.

Struggling to keep that 8-8 core togetether.



look at the big picture or keep making an ass outa yourself.
 

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So your argument is that we didn't sign Grubbs last season because we didn't have the cap space... but that was because of an unforeseeable penalty, so that's ok? #comeon

no. And do me the courtesy of not setting up oversimplistic strawmen so you can smack them down, hosswat.

1) That's not my argument.

2) You're arguing that we can't point out specific examples of people we've been hampered from signing, but when I brought up a name, you said we didn't have interest. Cop out.

3) Brandon Carr is the only "marquee" free agent we've signed since TO.

We may have had an interest, but he was a top guy, we went in another direction that was an equally high need.

No teams can sign every top FA every season. So you can't argue that our inability to do so is outside the norm.

We operate how every team in the league operates. Our cap situation has yet to bite us.
 
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superpunk... the team wanted Michael Huff.

The team couldn't sign him, so they asked him to wait until we restructured contracts to sign him.

He didn't.

Blows your entire argument up. You got nothing.
 

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We had to sign our 2nd and much cheaper choice Will Allen because the player we actually wanted, Mike Huff, did not want to pinky swear on a deal.

Our cap situation restricted us from signing a player we wanted.

Thread over.
 
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Big bright colors for our mental midget.


20-24 0 division titles 0 playoff appearances



32-16 two division titles 3-2 in playoffs and a Super Bowl appearance


What do 'trying to keep a Championship team together compared to trying to keep a core of perenial underachievers together' mean?
 
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We had to sign our 2nd and much cheaper choice Will Allen because the player we actually wanted, Mike Huff, did not want to pinky swear on a deal.

Our cap situation restricted us from signing a player we wanted.

Thread over.

hi superpunk
 

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We had to sign our 2nd and much cheaper choice Will Allen because the player we actually wanted, Mike Huff, did not want to pinky swear on a deal.

Our cap situation restricted us from signing a player we wanted.

Thread over.

We had Allen and Huff in at the same time. Signed one and not the other. You have no idea which our first choice was. We had them in in the morning and signed him that afternoon.

I've come up with mountains of evidence from multiple teams who all operate the same way we do. It's normal business practice in the NFL. That's proved beyond a doubt now. As is the fact that we can get space whenever we want it.
 
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We had Allen and Huff in at the same time. Signed one and not the other. You have no idea which our first choice was. We had them in in the morning and signed him that afternoon.

I've come up with mountains of evidence from multiple teams who all operate the same way we do. It's normal business practice in the NFL. That's proved beyond a doubt now. As is the fact that we can get space whenever we want it.

Wrong. Again.

http://www.dallascowboysuniverse.co...wo-others-visiting-today/page3&highlight=Huff
 
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Huff said his visit Monday with the Cowboys went well and he talked to all of the coaches to get a feel for how he would fit in the team’s new 4-3 base defense that will use a Tampa 2 scheme.

Huff said the market for his services would dictate how long he can wait on the Cowboys to clear enough salary cap space to make an offer to him. Huff said he will visit Baltimore later this week and then will be visiting Green Bay.

Huff, an Irving Nimitz graduate, said he lives in Addison and would love the chance to return home and play for the Cowboys.
 

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Allen was brought in first, Huff second. Huff publicly admitted they wanted him to agree to terms but wait on on actual contract. He wasn't willing to do that. We went back and air quote signed Allen.
 

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Allen was brought in first, Huff second. Huff publicly admitted they wanted him to agree to terms but wait on on actual contract. He wasn't willing to do that. We went back and air quote signed Allen.

There was probably no reason for Huff or his agent to make a story up about how bad we wanted to sign them was there?

Weird how we wanted to sign him so bad but couldn't - then just instantly invented cap space and signed Durant and Allen.
 

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There was probably no reason for Huff or his agent to make a story up about how bad we wanted to sign them was there?

Weird how we wanted to sign him so bad but couldn't - then just instantly invented cap space and signed Durant and Allen.

31 other teams missed out on huff

we had Allen and Durant in on Monday the 25th.
Huff came in on Tuesday the 26th. Later that day him and his agent reveal that yo guys the cowboys really want me but I can't make any promises if they don't have cap space.

Wednesday the 27th we sign Durant and Allen. I believe later that day Huff signs with Baltimore. It's obvious we wanted him BAD but he just couldn't wait around for us to clear the cap space that we'd already cleared before he signed with bmore.
 
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