Atheism to Defeat Religion By 2038

[superpunk]

There must have been some sort of divine intervention if you typed all that shit on a phone.

 

[skidadl]

I have a lot of questions about faith that I'll probably never get answered. I have a love/hate with church that will probably never be better. But one thing that keeps me on this side of believing is the people that I've seen do a 180 and completely give their life to their faith.

Even if it God and Jesus don't exist, it's not a bad life to strive for, IMO.

And it goes without saying, but I respect where SP,Iamtdg, and everxxx are coming from. They are free to live the way they see fit. It doesn't make them bad people at all.

I agree with this in every sense.

 

[Sheik]

There must have been some sort of divine intervention if you typed all that shit on a phone.

I do it because I care about your soul, assface.

 

[Sheik]

Then you must not have watched many plays involving our secondary last year.

HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

lol

31 other teams, buddy.

 

[jeebus]

His presence? This is an intangible idea that cannot be proven. If that is your argument then there is no argument to be had.

Agreed

 

[jeebus]

And of course that is your personal view of the bible. There are alot of Christians who hold it in much higher esteem. You have to forgive us atheists we never know what personal brand of Christianity each Christian has subscribed to in order to appease themselves.

Fine, but this reply doesnt address the fact you are trying to disprove the existence of god by questioning a book. One is a book and one is an all seeing all powerful god, disproving one doesnt automatically disprove the other.

 

[superpunk]

Of course the trouble is that most Christians don't see it that way and the church definitely doesn't see itself that way for the most part.

If Christians just treated their faith like bikram yoga or some shit, kept it to themselves and didn't go around demanding that people who disagreed with the principles of bikram yoga don't deserve the same rights as everyone else because goddammit this country was founded on the principles of bikram yoga....noone would give a fuck.

Ok it gives some people purpose. So does crossfit, greenpeace and being an admin on Cowboys fan forums. Nothing supernatural to see in any of it. And all of those things have the added bonus of not being tools with which you can convince people to engage in extremism - which ends up being the form of religion that is untouched by secularism, liberalism and progressivism.

Unfortunately what we see from religion is not that they are the trendsetters in acceptance and tolerance and love of your fellowman no matter what - but that they must be dragged to that state kicking and screaming by progressives and free-thinkers because their dogma demands otherwise.

So it's admirable when religious people can keep it in their pants, but it's not common. And that's a problem for anyone who doesn't share their ancient world-views adopted from a book that was written by people who thought slavery was acceptable.

 

[jeebus]

Wut?

Ive never seen a person on toast.

You must not be Catholic

 

[jeebus]

Of course the trouble is that most Christians don't see it that way and the church definitely doesn't see itself that way for the most part.

If Christians just treated their faith like bikram yoga or some shit, kept it to themselves and didn't go around demanding that people who disagreed with the principles of bikram yoga don't deserve the same rights as everyone else because goddammit this country was founded on the principles of bikram yoga....noone would give a fuck.

Ok it gives some people purpose. So does crossfit, greenpeace and being an admin on Cowboys fan forums. Nothing supernatural to see in any of it. And all of those things have the added bonus of not being tools with which you can convince people to engage in extremism - which ends up being the form of religion that is untouched by secularism, liberalism and progressivism.

Unfortunately what we see from religion is not that they are the trendsetters in acceptance and tolerance and love of your fellowman no matter what - but that they must be dragged to that state kicking and screaming by progressives and free-thinkers because their dogma demands otherwise.

So it's admirable when religious people can keep it in their pants, but it's not common. And that's a problem for anyone who doesn't share their ancient world-views adopted from a book that was written by people who thought slavery was acceptable.

Hey, I agree %100 that religion is full of sh1t, feel free to disprove it all you want. But dont puff out your chest and strut around acting like you have disproved the existence of god because you found some modern hippocrits or ancient contradictions in religion.

 

[jeebus]

And what rights do you think you have lost to Christians? It is the athiests who want to stop the free practice of their religion (at least in public)

 

[Iamtdg]

I am at least in partial agreement with two of the biggest liberal fags on this board.

I must go to confession and speak of the error of my ways.

 

[superpunk]

Hey, I agree %100 that religion is full of sh1t, feel free to disprove it all you want. But dont puff out your chest and strut around acting like you have disproved the existence of god because you found some modern hippocrits or ancient contradictions in religion.

There's no need to disprove something that noone can present a shred of evidence for. If god exists in the way that you (personally) imagine he does (at least from what you've presented here) then honestly he's kind of an asshole. Just sitting up there, existing, watching people suffer incredibly, only revealing himself to certain people in completely unverifiable and innocuous ways. I'd rather assume that he's not in fact an asshole, he just isn't real. Shit happens.

 

[skidadl]

What's interesting about you post is that I agree with most of it. Which brings me back to where most of what I have been saying since I jumped in this thread. Christians shouldn't try to persuade through politics. Neither should atheists. Matter of fact, government should work for the people, so their interference in our daily lives should be minimal. Being so insecure that we need government recognition is a stupid idea. The government doesn't need to recognize religion, sexual preference, gobs of holidays and all of the other things that seem so important to the average blood sucking, money leeching, black hole citizen that we seem to have in this fine country.

 

[Sheik]

Of course the trouble is that most Christians don't see it that way and the church definitely doesn't see itself that way for the most part.

If Christians just treated their faith like bikram yoga or some shit, kept it to themselves and didn't go around demanding that people who disagreed with the principles of bikram yoga don't deserve the same rights as everyone else because goddammit this country was founded on the principles of bikram yoga....noone would give a fuck.

Ok it gives some people purpose. So does crossfit, greenpeace and being an admin on Cowboys fan forums. Nothing supernatural to see in any of it. And all of those things have the added bonus of not being tools with which you can convince people to engage in extremism - which ends up being the form of religion that is untouched by secularism, liberalism and progressivism.

Unfortunately what we see from religion is not that they are the trendsetters in acceptance and tolerance and love of your fellowman no matter what - but that they must be dragged to that state kicking and screaming by progressives and free-thinkers because their dogma demands otherwise.

So it's admirable when religious people can keep it in their pants, but it's not common. And that's a problem for anyone who doesn't share their ancient world-views adopted from a book that was written by people who thought slavery was acceptable.

Going back to that video that skid posted, I think if you're a decent person, who truly believes in their faith, and cares about people, you would have to expect that person to try and let you in on it.

Theres definitely a right and wrong way to do it. I get that.


As far as rights go, and condemnation, yeah, I don't get too caught up in that stuff. I'm not here to judge you, or tell you what you can and can't do.

Gay marriage is something that I refuse to talk about with people in every day life. My opinion isn't popular among the people that I congregate with. Even my Wife.

I say let them get married. I understand it's not biblical, but neither is murder, adultery, and lying. Godly people do that shit too, ya know?

Whatevs.

 

[superpunk]

And what rights do you think you have lost to Christians? It is the athiests who want to stop the free practice of their religion (at least in public)

Well I'm a straight white male so Christians are mostly ok with me. Gay female minorities have more troubles.

And I disagree with the second part. Atheists want to maintain a separation of church and state - therefore some of them speak up when possible discriminatory practices arise, like prayer in school or bible verses on government facilities. Since not everyone's Christian that is better for everyone. Religion has it's place - in a church. It should be content with that.

 

[Sheik]

One of the funniest things I've witnessed in church goes a little something like this. . .

Middle aged man. Very soft spoken. Never been married. Drives a tiny convertible. Has toy poodle.

Fag. But he's scared to be a fag.

lol

 

[skidadl]

There's no need to disprove something that noone can present a shred of evidence for. If god exists in the way that you (personally) imagine he does (at least from what you've presented here) then honestly he's kind of an asshole. Just sitting up there, existing, watching people suffer incredibly, only revealing himself to certain people in completely unverifiable and innocuous ways. I'd rather assume that he's not in fact an asshole, he just isn't real. Shit happens.

God is a Libertarian.

 

[superpunk]

One of the funniest things I've witnessed in church goes a little something like this. . .

Middle aged man. Very soft spoken. Never been married. Drives a tiny convertible. Has toy poodle.

Fag. But he's scared to be a fag.

lol

Why I want to punch anyone who says "hate the sin not the sinner" in the face. As though you can separate your sexuality from your being and still live a happy life.

 

[superpunk]

God is a Libertarian.

Useless and mostly just insane? Sounds about right.

 

[Sheik]

Why I want to punch anyone who says "hate the sin not the sinner" in the face. As though you can separate your sexuality from your being and still live a happy life.

Hey, I believe gays can get into Heaven. I just find it funny, and frustrating that a Christian would try and rank their(the fags) sin above his or her sin.