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Well I'm a straight white male so Christians are mostly ok with me. Gay female minorities have more troubles.

And I disagree with the second part. Atheists want to maintain a separation of church and state - therefore some of them speak up when possible discriminatory practices arise, like prayer in school or bible verses on government facilities. Since not everyone's Christian that is better for everyone. Religion has it's place - in a church. It should be content with that.

Well that doesn't really work because the basis of faith is that religion is house to house and lived publicly. Trying to be the one to decide where it should be practiced is really retarded.
 

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Well that doesn't really work because the basis of faith is that religion is house to house and lived publicly. Trying to be the one to decide where it should be practiced is really retarded.

ok a church or your house. Whatever. Keep it in your pants amigo and stop terrifying children with it. Straight up child abuse.
 

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Hey, I believe gays can get into Heaven. I just find it funny, and frustrating that a Christian would try and rank their(the fags) sin above his or her sin.

Dudes making out is gross and I don't understand it. God hates fags.
 
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Why I want to punch anyone who says "hate the sin not the sinner" in the face. As though you can separate your sexuality from your being and still live a happy life.

Hey looky here, another statement that doesn't make sense. You obviously have no idea what the sentiment means.

Obviously you hate religion, do you advocate hating religious people along with religion? How bout this: hate religion but get along with believers. Do you disagree with that statement?
 

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Hey looky here, another statement that doesn't make sense. You obviously have no idea what the sentiment means.

Obviously you hate religion, do you advocate hating religious people along with religion? How bout this: hate religion but get along with believers. Do you disagree with that statement?

You cannot preach hate of something that is an immutable state of being and declare that you still love the person. Our sexuality is one of our most defining characteristics, and is not a choice. So comparing it to religion is a false equivocation. You raise a kid up who is gay and spend years telling him God hates his nature and so does everyone he knows and you've got a recipe for suicide. Despicable.
 

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You cannot preach hate of something that is an immutable state of being and declare that you still love the person. Our sexuality is one of our most defining characteristics, and is not a choice. So comparing it to religion is a false equivocation. You raise a kid up who is gay and spend years telling him God hates his nature and so does everyone he knows and you've got a recipe for suicide. Despicable.

Answer the question.
 

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Is there anything today that is accomplished by religion/faith that could not be accomplished without it?
 
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You cannot preach hate of something that is an immutable state of being and declare that you still love the person. Our sexuality is one of our most defining characteristics, and is not a choice. So comparing it to religion is a false equivocation. You raise a kid up who is gay and spend years telling him God hates his nature and so does everyone he knows and you've got a recipe for suicide. Despicable.

OK, cool prove that scientifically and we can handshake on the whole deal. You are a real smart guy who does not believe anything that cannot be proven so please, fire away with the evidence and we can come to an agreement. Otherwise, it's just a myth/fairy tale just like religion. Fair enough?
 

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Is there anything today that is accomplished by religion/faith that could not be accomplished without it?

Yeah. I've seen it. Would you see it the way I do? No.

The problem is, you can't make a blanket statement and say, "oh yeah, faith cures cancer."

I believe I've seen faith take over a situation(s).
 

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OK, cool prove that scientifically and we can handshake on the whole deal. You are a real smart guy who does not believe anything that cannot be proven so please, fire away with the evidence and we can come to an agreement. Otherwise, it's just a myth/fairy tale just like religion. Fair enough?

Maybe all the gay kids who kill themselves are just doing it for attention.
 
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Maybe all the gay kids who kill themselves are just doing it for attention.

Cool, so do you have scientific proof about all of this or is it just a personal preference that you chose to believe based on opinion, experience and...darn I say faith?

hahaha!

Come on, you can do it, answer the question. Try your hardest....
 

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Cool, so do you have scientific proof about all of this or is it just a personal preference that you chose to believe based on opinion, experience and...darn I say faith?

hahaha!

Come on, you can do it, answer the question. Try your hardest....

Proof of what?
 

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Israel says hello.
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Yeah. I've seen it. Would you see it the way I do? No.

The problem is, you can't make a blanket statement and say, "oh yeah, faith cures cancer."

I believe I've seen faith take over a situation(s).

If only god were still parting seas and walking on water. A god of results. There's a god I could get behind.
 
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Proof of what?



You cannot preach hate of something that is an immutable state of being and declare that you still love the person. Our sexuality is one of our most defining characteristics, and is not a choice. So comparing it to religion is a false equivocation. You raise a kid up who is gay and spend years telling him God hates his nature and so does everyone he knows and you've got a recipe for suicide. Despicable.
 
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SP Logic 101

Step 1 - Eliminate God because there is no scientific proof of God.

Step 2 - Accept anything else that cannot be scientifically proven as long as it lines up with your personal preferences.
 

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I hope that's a joke. There are countless studies that link homosexuality to all sorts of things, whether it's genetic, evolutionary or environmental, etc - but in no instances is there a conscious choice made. Sexuality is a state of being we have no control over.

If it's not a joke and you are actually serious then when did you decide to be straight?
 
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I hope that's a joke. There are countless studies that link homosexuality to all sorts of things, whether it's genetic, evolutionary or environmental, etc - but in no instances is there a conscious choice made. Sexuality is a state of being we have no control over.

If it's not a joke and you are actually serious then when did you decide to be straight?

Please try your best to not divert from the question.

Has it been scientifically proven that it's not a choice or is it strictly your opinion based on somebody's experience? Are you going to answer that question?
 
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