2013 NFL Draft Thread

[dbair1967]

“@GregBailey7: How low would Cooper have to drop before you, personally, would be willing to trade up?” @brodus - If he makes it to 14 I pick up phone


The fuck?

Guess it depends on how much they love him and what the cost is.

If they think the guy is an allpro calibar player and the cost is only a middle round pick, it'd be immense help at a position of critical need. So then its worth it.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Trading up for the 2nd best guard when the best guards usually go 19/20

 

[peplaw06]

I get the sinking feeling Jerry is listening to all of these media experts and is going to unnecessarily trade up to get Warmack or Cooper.

 

[Theebs]

I still don't buy jerry takes a guard in the first round.

I am going to have to see it to believe it.

I think he would pull the usual jerry bs and trade back and take fluker or whoever slips a little. Then jerry can have the pc with a big smile on his face as he talks about value and getting more picks so we can get more owusu ansah's.....

I hope one of those guards falls right in our lap and we just pick whichever is left, then draft a DT in the second round, Guard/Tackle in the third.....then a safety and a back.....

if we trade up for a guard that is crazy, that means we would be giving away two players between last years trade and this one. That is not ok for this team right now.

 

[dbair1967]

Cooper can play G and C, in fact I've read numerous comments that say C might be his best position.

Personally I still think Warmack is the better PLAYER, but I'd be happy if landed either one of them.

 

[dbair1967]

Trading up for the 2nd best guard when the best guards usually go 19/20

This draft isnt like other one's before it. Each draft is its own thing.

In this draft where its so weak at the top, I think the position a guy plays might not hurt their value as much as it would some other years. Teams might be more inclined to actually take BPA, and in that case the BPA is likely to be an interior OL in the top-20 picks.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

I'm against trading up as well.

Warmack
Cooper
Richardson

In that order

 

[superpunk]

I think by and large I'm extremely against drafting a DT in the first round.

I get the impression just thinking back over the years that their bust rate is very high (like, almost WR high). And what's more, I don't think the difference between someone found later and a blue chip prospect is ever that significant. Obviously if you've got a guy like Suh who is just a monster and a dynamic pass rusher you have to take him but late in the first we aren't getting that. Guard is a much safer pick. I don't want some shitpick Broderick Bunkley or Corey Patterson.

 

[Midswat]

Yeah WR and DT are the two most likely to bust positions in the NFL draft, for first rounders.

 

[bbgun]

I still don't buy jerry takes a guard in the first round.

I can, but not trade up for one, as some of these mocks preposterously suggest. Him stealing Larry Allen in the second round has probably made him cocky regarding the G position.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I can, but not trade up for one, as some of these mocks preposterously suggest. Him stealing Larry Allen in the second round has probably made him cocky regarding the G position.

He didn't have shit to do with that.

 

[bbgun]

Dude, we're talking about Jerry here. He'd take credit for Roger Staubach if he could.

 

[cmd34(work)]

He didn't have shit to do with that.

How so? It was the first non-Jimmy draft.

 

[superpunk]

Because Jerry is the only GM in the league to have absolutely nothing to do with good moves we make and absolutely everything to do with bad moves we hate.

 

[cmd34(work)]

Not in my mind. Shante Carver was a disaster in the 1st but Larry Allen was an awesome pick and is really Jerry's first HOF'er.

He inherited Irvin and basically inherited Aikman (#1 pick from worst record previous year) and Emmitt was all Jimmy.

 

[superpunk]

I'm just saying, for better or worse he's been the GM here for a while. We can't pick and choose what to give him credit for, and at the same time blame him for everything that goes wrong. He's either the GM or he isn't. We don't do that for anyone else in the league.

 

[cmd34(work)]

I'm just saying, for better or worse he's been the GM here for a while. We can't pick and choose what to give him credit for, and at the same time blame him for everything that goes wrong. He's either the GM or he isn't. We don't do that for anyone else in the league.

I hate the man. He has ruined this once proud franchise IMO. He has done way more harm than good insisting on being the GM. He does gets picks/trades/signings right every once in a while but he misses way too often.

 

[Midswat]

Things I give Jerry credit for: Ware. Hiring Jimmy and giving him control of personnel. ...

Things I blame Jerry for: Drafts 1994-2003 (look them up, their putrid). Not preparing for life post Aikman, and thinking failed baseball players would equal NFL quality QBs. Hiring Switzer. Hiring Campo. Hiring Wade. 2009 draft. Putting his need for "credit" over the betterment of the team/holding fanbase hostage. Galloway trade. Roy Williams trade. Dozens of horrible contracts.


Am I forgetting a thing or two to give him credit for? Most likely.

Am I forgetting a bunch of shit he gets blame for? Of course.

Why are we not so critical of other GMs? Oh, I don't know... because we're not fans of those teams? + other shitty GM's get fired. Ours doesn't.

 

[superpunk]

thats just a list of good things and bad things that you've arbitrarily assigned to jerry's credit or detriment.

 

[dbair1967]

Not in my mind. Shante Carver was a disaster in the 1st but Larry Allen was an awesome pick and is really Jerry's first HOF'er.

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This is kinda beating a deadhorse, but Carver was rated a 1st rd pick by just about everyone that year. And you being a Pac-10 homer should have known as much about the guy as anyone. He had FOUR consecutive double digit sack seasons at ASU, which was extremely rare for players at the time to do. He wasnt a one yr wonder or some workout warrior, the guy was a really good player in college.

He was ruined by alcoholism, which nobody knew anything about when he came out of college.