2013 NFL Draft Thread

[Midswat]

Opens post by saying "Stopped getting his guide because I can't stand kiper!"

Closes post by using Kipers opinion to justify argument on a player.




Hmmmmmm

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Anyone else like Elam a little less once they found out he was Abe's brother?

Personally I thought Elam looked pretty good at the combine. He's short, but he's got the bulk and I thought he moved pretty well. Can't say I ever watched him at Florida, though.

 

[dbair1967]

Opens post by saying "Stopped getting his guide because I can't stand kiper!"

Closes post by using Kipers opinion to justify argument on a player.
Hmmmmmm

Thats not why I did it, but go on being an asshole if you it makes you happy.

 

[dbair1967]

Anyone else like Elam a little less once they found out he was Abe's brother?

Personally I thought Elam looked pretty good at the combine. He's short, but he's got the bulk and I thought he moved pretty well. Can't say I ever watched him at Florida, though.

I think he's a far better player than his brother. Has alot more foot speed and quickness.

He had a pretty solid career at Florida.

 

[dbair1967]

By the way, the reason I dont like Kiper (aside from the obvious, he is full of himself) is that he had a tendency to rate players one way on the front end, then slam teams after the draft for picking them. Carver is one such example. He absolutely loved the guy right up until the point where we picked him (and I do agree with some of his argument against it, saying we shouldnt have moved up to get him). Still, when you heard his opinion after taking him and read his views after the fact, you'd have thought we drafted some guy he had rated as a fringe player instead of one he absolutely loved. And he did that repeatedly for years, not just to us, but certain other teams as well. He clearly played favorites in terms of how he "graded" teams, and ignored his own "expert" opinion of the players themselves.

I have Joel Buschbaum's Draft Guides as well, and if I find it I will post what he wrote about Carver as well. Although I'm reasonably sure it was similar to Kiper's opinion.

 

[Midswat]

‏@TonyPauline 22m Sources close to situation tell me Dee Milliner/CB/Alabama is #1 priority for Cleveland Browns with Barkevious Mingo/LB/LSU the contingency

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

By the way, the reason I dont like Kiper (aside from the obvious, he is full of himself) is that he had a tendency to rate players one way on the front end, then slam teams after the draft for picking them. Carver is one such example. He absolutely loved the guy right up until the point where we picked him (and I do agree with some of his argument against it, saying we shouldnt have moved up to get him). Still, when you heard his opinion after taking him and read his views after the fact, you'd have thought we drafted some guy he had rated as a fringe player instead of one he absolutely loved. And he did that repeatedly for years, not just to us, but certain other teams as well. He clearly played favorites in terms of how he "graded" teams, and ignored his own "expert" opinion of the players themselves.

I have Joel Buschbaum's Draft Guides as well, and if I find it I will post what he wrote about Carver as well. Although I'm reasonably sure it was similar to Kiper's opinion.

I still remember as to how Kiper hyped up Justin Beriault big time.

 

[Midswat]

‏@nfldraftupdate #FSU OT Menelik Watson could wind up causing plenty of post-day one arguments if chosen. Some Tyron Smith similarities, but a bit more raw.

 

[dbair1967]

I still remember as to how Kiper hyped up Justin Beriault big time.

Beriault could have been a pretty good player from what I remember. He ended up with some sort of major injury or something IIRC.

 

[dbair1967]

‏@nfldraftupdate #FSU OT Menelik Watson could wind up causing plenty of post-day one arguments if chosen. Some Tyron Smith similarities, but a bit more raw.

I'd probably be ok if we landed Watson if we moved down. He does seem to have a ton of upside.

 

[bbgun]

Forget it. No more old rookies. He'll be 25 in December. Since most rookies are 22/23, that's at least two years of lost service to us. Oh, and he's still learning the game.

 

[superpunk]

Like that Viking DE. Fuck that guy playing d2 ball with man strength.

 

[dbair1967]

Forget it. No more old rookies. He'll be 25 in December. Since most rookies are 22/23, that's at least two years of lost service to us. Oh, and he's still learning the game.

He plays OL, I dont think its as big a deal for that position as some others because they tend to have reall long careers anyway if they can play.

 

[Midswat]

Forget it. No more old rookies. He'll be 25 in December. Since most rookies are 22/23, that's at least two years of lost service to us. Oh, and he's still learning the game.

Like our first rounders ever get a 2nd contract with us anyways

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Forget it. No more old rookies. He'll be 25 in December. Since most rookies are 22/23, that's at least two years of lost service to us. Oh, and he's still learning the game.

And he's tried out so many sports that some believe his heart may not be set in the game.

 

[dbair1967]

Like our first rounders ever get a 2nd contract with us anyways

we dont need to re-sign them...they get bigger contracts and eat up more cap space

 

[Angrymesscan]

He plays OL, I dont think its as big a deal for that position as some others because they tend to have reall long careers anyway if they can play.

The problem I have with 25 yo rookies is that they were playing like men vs boys because they were, so I don't feel their production/tape should be graded equally.

 

[Midswat]

@evansilva1h
Looked at Margus Hunt recently for first time in months. I think he will be a bust. So stiff, not explosive, and upright. Not a good player.

 

[dbair1967]

The problem I have with 25 yo rookies is that they were playing like men vs boys because they were, so I don't feel their production/tape should be graded equally.

He'll be a 24 yr old rookie, he doesn't turn 25 till close to the end of the season.

It isn't like he's 5 years older than the guys he was playing against either.

 

[dbair1967]

Walter Football Cowboys mock:

Jonathon Cooper, OG
Eric Reid, SS
Benny Logan, DT
Stephan Taylor, RB
Jordan Hill, DT
Conner Vernan, WR