Yo Santorum maybe just muzzle your Christianity until you win?

[Cythim]

They obviously misinterpreted it and no, I'm not guessing.

Or you are obviously misinterpreting it

 

[superpunk]

Yes, I know. Just funny that an entire field of study is predicated on a previous separate field that can't be explained. Yes we can study micro-evolution. But getting it from that first single cell to the complex human....

It's not predicated on it at all?

Getting from the first cell to a human is pretty well documented, once they started breaking down the genome and that we have genetic similarities with carrots from where we broke off from them millions of years ago all the magic pretty much went out the window.

 

[superpunk]

Guesses, exactly. But by golly we know we're right and those other people are just believing in fairy tales.

Guesses can be tested and proved or disproved. Fairy tales can't.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Or you are obviously misinterpreting it

No. Unless you can show me where Christ instructs believes to kill unbelievers.

If not, then I stand by my stance that those who do kill unbelievers in the name of Christ did so on their own accord or through some perverted misinterpretation.

 

[Cythim]

Guesses, exactly. But by golly we know we're right and those other people are just believing in fairy tales.

They are guesses based on observations that anyone can make (with the right tools), not beliefs passed down from thousands of years ago. Huge difference.

 

[Cythim]

No. Unless you can show me where Christ instructs believes to kill unbelievers.

If not, then I stand by my stance that those who do kill unbelievers in the name of Christ did so on their own accord or through some perverted misinterpretation.

3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people

 

[VA Cowboy]

It's not predicated on it at all?

Getting from the first cell to a human is pretty well documented, once they started breaking down the genome and that we have genetic similarities with carrots from where we broke off from them millions of years ago all the magic pretty much went out the window.

Genetic similarities with carrots. Cool. God used some of the same material when he created men and vegetables. That explains many at the Zone at least.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Guesses can be tested and proved or disproved. Fairy tales can't.

That's what's great about all these theories. People can just act like things not yet proven or disproven will one day be proven or disproven. And if once disproven then move on to the next guess..... Fairy tales....

 

[VA Cowboy]

3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people

Cherry picking at it's finest. That's Acts 3:23 by the way. And if you look it up and keep it in context you will see that:

To be destroyed from among the people means, however, to be excommunicated, or to be deprived of the privileges of a people. Among the Jews this was probably the most severe punishment that could be inflicted. It involved the idea of being cut off from the privileges of sacrifice and worship in the temple and in the synagogue, etc., and of being regarded as a pagan and an outcast.

http://bible.cc/acts/3-23.htm

 

[superpunk]

Genetic similarities with carrots. Cool. God used some of the same material when he created men and vegetables. That explains many at the Zone at least.

We used to be carrots man. CARROTS! If that isn't cool I don't know what is. We've come a long way baby. What's cool is within that genetic code you can actually see when we broke off and became a different species, because you see SAME SAME SAME SAME SAME SAME DIFFERENT. Our genome is 98% the same as chimpanzees, showing how recently we broke off from our ancestors.

 

[superpunk]

That's what's great about all these theories. People can just act like things not yet proven or disproven will one day be proven or disproven. And if once disproven then move on to the next guess..... Fairy tales....

Oh you mean the scientific method. Yeah that's worked out pretty great for us since it's inception. Who likes penicillin?

 

[Cythim]

Cherry picking at it's finest. That's Acts 3:23 by the way. And if you look it up and keep it in context you will see that:

To be destroyed from among the people means, however, to be excommunicated, or to be deprived of the privileges of a people. Among the Jews this was probably the most severe punishment that could be inflicted. It involved the idea of being cut off from the privileges of sacrifice and worship in the temple and in the synagogue, etc., and of being regarded as a pagan and an outcast.

http://bible.cc/acts/3-23.htm

You ask me to cherry pick a passage for you then turn around and accuse me of cherry picking. Yet here you are cherry picking the interpretation that fits within your belief structure and your argument.

 

[superpunk]

Cherry picking at it's finest. That's Acts 3:23 by the way. And if you look it up and keep it in context you will see that:

To be destroyed from among the people means, however, to be excommunicated, or to be deprived of the privileges of a people. Among the Jews this was probably the most severe punishment that could be inflicted. It involved the idea of being cut off from the privileges of sacrifice and worship in the temple and in the synagogue, etc., and of being regarded as a pagan and an outcast.

http://bible.cc/acts/3-23.htm

And of course you're aware that many Christian sects today practice shunning? And that this can be incredibly damaging to a person? I mean yeah Christians don't kill heretics like back in the day, but they will raise a child in a community, make it all the child ever knows, THEN....if the child one day says "I don't believe", they will completely turn their back on it, cutting off communication and support, etc. The life the child thought it knew has been completely destroyed, and they are left on their own to reconstruct it simply because they think different than believers.

 

[NoDak]

And of course you're aware that many Christian sects today practice shunning? And that this can be incredibly damaging to a person? I mean yeah Christians don't kill heretics like back in the day, but they will raise a child in a community, make it all the child ever knows, THEN....if the child one day says "I don't believe", they will completely turn their back on it, cutting off communication and support, etc. The life the child thought it knew has been completely destroyed, and they are left on their own to reconstruct it simply because they think different than believers.

Many Christian sects practice this? I'd like to see this. You have a link so I can read up on it?

 

[superpunk]

Many Christian sects practice this? I'd like to see this. You have a link so I can read up on it?

See: The Bible

See also: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Amish/Mennonites, etc.

inb4"They're not true Christians/their interpretation of the text is wrong"

 

[NoDak]

See: The Bible

See also: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Amish/Mennonites, etc.

inb4"They're not true Christians/their interpretation of the text is wrong"

I admittedly don't know a lot about Mormons, Jehovah Witness, etc... But what little I found in a quick search said it was practiced long ago.

 

[superpunk]

I admittedly don't know a lot about Mormons, Jehovah Witness, etc... But what little I found in a quick search said it was practiced long ago.

No, it's still practiced to this day. If you say you're out, or if they kick you out for "wrongdoing/sinning" the shunning commences.

 

[Cythim]

No, it's still practiced to this day. If you say you're out, or if they kick you out for "wrongdoing/sinning" the shunning commences.

I can confirm this is true because I watched Big Love on HBO.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Oh you mean the scientific method. Yeah that's worked out pretty great for us since it's inception. Who likes penicillin?

Science finds a lot of good things. Cool. Trying to solve where man came from isn't one of it's specialities though.

 

[superpunk]

Science finds a lot of good things. Cool. Trying to solve where man came from isn't one of it's specialities though.

They've already solved that?