X-DAWG'S " HATE TO RAIN ON YOUR PARADE " THREAD

[Midswat]

Would anyone be left?

tinytim.

Because every second he spends online at the DCU, the kids in his neighborhood are safe.

 

[Sheik]

Would anyone be left?

It'd be Midswat, tiny tim and book of romo.

Just chillin.

 

[Cythim]

Don't think I hate you dbair, I appreciate your opinion even if it is wrong. You are like the guy at work I like to talk politics with. Everyone else hates him because he is wrong but I talk to him to hear a different opinion. Sheltering yourself from opinions, even wrong opinions, is a good way to keep yourself in the dark. He is a conservative but he hates all the Republican front runners, go figure.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Gotta say the x had some points. I'll take Garrett over Wade, Campo or Switzer but he does leave alot to be desired. Playcalling in certain situations is still atrocious and I do have to question his team preparation. Even with the injuries, you'd think the guys who are out there that have been on the team for the last 2-4 years should know the playbook and be better prepared by now. Guys like Ogletree and Holley may not have the natural talent but they should know how to line up and what routes to run. I'll give a pass to the recent on again off again signee Robinson and rookie Harris, but these other guys were totally lost. Throw in Bennett and that unit was horrid.

Also have to agree about Free. For all the hype and praise that's been heaped on him he was getting it handed to him much of the night. I'd love for Tyron to eventually make the move to LT and then put Free at a more suitable position. As for the rest of the OL, yes Costa sucks and Nagy leaves something to be desired, but hard to fault them when one was undrafted and the other is a 7th round rookie. The fault lies with our genius GM who went into the season with these two as our best options to start. That said, someone who played ball at a BCS caliber college team should be able to execute a freaking snap of the ball. By watching last night you'd think they just pulled the guy out of Rowdy's costume and suited him up or something.

Defensively though, Ryan is the best thing that has happened to this team. If Newman and Jenkins can ever get and stay healthy and we get B. Carter out there and contributing by mid-season, we could have a very, very solid unit. Hopefully the rest of the league won't consider Rob as HC material and he can stay here a few years.

 

[Sheik]

Good points, VA.

On Fat Rob, I think he's good as gone if this D continues to improve all year. The only thing that keeps him in Dallas is a monumental collapse of his unit, IMO.

His fire and attitude is awesome. Who wouldn't want that guy? I just hope his demeanor continues to rub off on the players and they remain confident after he's gone.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I thought he was very good.....he played to the game....we needed to win this game on defense and special teams and he madesure. We had that opportunity late.

Bennett and ogletree not hanging on to touchdowns is not the coaches fault......bad officiating is not either...

I thought the whole staff was excellent last night....

Meh to the officiating crap, and i didn't say players not hanging onto balls was JG's fault, i said the sloppy play and silly mental errors is. Its his responsibility to lead the offense.. and right now, our D and ST are better units who are functioning more effectively each week. I don't see that progress with the offense.

 

[dbair1967]

Meh to the officiating crap, and i didn't say players not hanging onto balls was JG's fault, i said the sloppy play and silly mental errors is. Its his responsibility to lead the offense.. and right now, our D and ST are better units who are functioning more effectively each week. I don't see that progress with the offense.

The offense is breaking in pretty much a brand new OL. Austin was out. Bryant was probably 70-75% at best. Romo and Witten were both hurt.

I dont expect Laurent Robinson to know every intricacy of the offense after 10 days (if even that). Its disappointing Ogletree doesnt get it. He clearly has some ability, but he may be that perennial tease.

I think some of you have unrealistic expectations. Be patient.

I've said all offseason I thought if we stayed healthy, we'd be a far better team the 2nd half of the season than the first half. I'm sticking by it. They scored basically 30 pts a game the 2nd half of last yr with a backup QB, an aged and overmatched OL and our stud rookie WR missing the last 4 games. Once the OL settles in and we get the key guys 100%, I dont have much doubt we'll move the ball at will and score plenty. Hell they havent really played great yet, and they are still scoring 23 pts a game.

 

[Theebs]

Meh to the officiating crap, and i didn't say players not hanging onto balls was JG's fault, i said the sloppy play and silly mental errors is. Its his responsibility to lead the offense.. and right now, our D and ST are better units who are functioning more effectively each week. I don't see that progress with the offense.

Well the officiating was big they cost us at least one turnover. The ware fumble was a fumble and we recovered it....a lot more also..

On to your point about the offense, first thing here is the obvious thing young line, injured qb who only practiced once...

And maybe the most important thing. Todd archer and Steve Dennis talked about this apparently earlier and Steve was telling it on espn radio here today.

The offense was stuck in the mud and confused for many reasons but most importantly all the wide receivers are the X wr....

Apparently right now only Austin has the Z spot down and that is the mental spot that needs to make the reads and that is why we still could function last week because Austin was the Z and ogletree was the x Holley also.....so last night ogle tree really struggled playing that spot and Holley, dez and Robinson only know the x spot.....

That to Me is a real problem that ogle tree and DEz dont know it if in fact archer is right...hopefully one more week of practice helps.

 

[Idgit]

Apparently right now only Austin has the Z spot down and that is the mental spot that needs to make the reads and that is why we still could function last week because Austin was the Z and ogletree was the x Holley also.....so last night ogle tree really struggled playing that spot and Holley, dez and Robinson only know the x spot.....

That to Me is a real problem that ogle tree and DEz dont know it if in fact archer is right...hopefully one more week of practice helps.

Wow. This goes a long way to explaining what went on, if true. It's also crazy that we'd go into a season with a single z WR. I can't believe that's true. It must be the case that Dez is working his way into that role, and he happened to be hampered, too.

Either way, trading Patrick Crayton for a bag of dicks the season before we release Roy Williams sure ended up being a stupid move.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

The offense is breaking in pretty much a brand new OL. Austin was out. Bryant was probably 70-75% at best. Romo and Witten were both hurt.

I dont expect Laurent Robinson to know every intricacy of the offense after 10 days (if even that). Its disappointing Ogletree doesnt get it. He clearly has some ability, but he may be that perennial tease.

I think some of you have unrealistic expectations. Be patient.

I've said all offseason I thought if we stayed healthy, we'd be a far better team the 2nd half of the season than the first half. I'm sticking by it. They scored basically 30 pts a game the 2nd half of last yr with a backup QB, an aged and overmatched OL and our stud rookie WR missing the last 4 games. Once the OL settles in and we get the key guys 100%, I dont have much doubt we'll move the ball at will and score plenty. Hell they havent really played great yet, and they are still scoring 23 pts a game.

Its not unrealistic to expect players to know the basics. Where to lineup, what routes to run on certain plays, when to not run out of bounds, etc.. any NFL player should know these things and be prepared going into any game. Its not rocket science, these are the basics.

And spare me the new guys, or guys playing hurt, etc.. every team has this. Hell our defense has been playing with 3rd stringers at DB all season long and they've progressed each week. I know you love JG, but he does have some flaws that need to be addressed yet.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Well the officiating was big they cost us at least one turnover. The ware fumble was a fumble and we recovered it....a lot more also..

On to your point about the offense, first thing here is the obvious thing young line, injured qb who only practiced once...

And maybe the most important thing. Todd archer and Steve Dennis talked about this apparently earlier and Steve was telling it on espn radio here today.

The offense was stuck in the mud and confused for many reasons but most importantly all the wide receivers are the X wr....

Apparently right now only Austin has the Z spot down and that is the mental spot that needs to make the reads and that is why we still could function last week because Austin was the Z and ogletree was the x Holley also.....so last night ogle tree really struggled playing that spot and Holley, dez and Robinson only know the x spot.....

That to Me is a real problem that ogle tree and DEz dont know it if in fact archer is right...hopefully one more week of practice helps.

The officiating didn't cost us anything. We had every right to challange that play and we didn't. Personally, i didn't think it was a fumble, and it wouldn't have been reversed had we challanged. We got the ball back the next play anyway.

As for the confusion and sloppiness.. if only one WR on our team knows the Z position, that is a problem.. and its poor preperation and lack of preparedness by the head coach to not have a back up plan if Austin gets injured. That wasn't the only issue, but it was a big part of it. Also with the poor snaps, how we let that go on the entire game without making an adjustment to correct it is also poor game management. The coaching staff has to recognize that its a problem and adjust.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Wow. This goes a long way to explaining what went on, if true. It's also crazy that we'd go into a season with a single z WR. I can't believe that's true. It must be the case that Dez is working his way into that role, and he happened to be hampered, too.

Either way, trading Patrick Crayton for a bag of dicks the season before we release Roy Williams sure ended up being a stupid move.

Yup. Would love to still have Crayton right now. Why you trade away the franchise QB's safety valve is beyond me.

 

[dbair1967]

The officiating didn't cost us anything. We had every right to challange that play and we didn't. Personally, i didn't think it was a fumble, and it wouldn't have been reversed had we challanged. We got the ball back the next play anyway.

It was a fumble, and the reason they didnt challenge is because the officials told Garrett they didnt rule on who recovered. (which the league has told officials they should do on every fumble regardless of whether they ruled the guy down or not, for just this reason) Since that was the case, there was no reason to replay. So the refs blew it. Saying the officiating didnt cost us anything the other night is b/s dude. the officiating was extremely biased. Almost nobody I work with is a Dallas fan, and everyone there saw it too. The officiating was terrible.

Also with the poor snaps, how we let that go on the entire game without making an adjustment to correct it is also poor game management. The coaching staff has to recognize that its a problem and adjust.

How do you know they didnt make an adjustment, and it just didnt help? Again they apparently brought up the Redskins barking out the signals to the officials, but they chose to ignore it.

 

[dbair1967]

Yup. Would love to still have Crayton right now. Why you trade away the franchise QB's safety valve is beyond me.

Werent you one of those in CZ pining to get rid of the guy?

Most over there couldnt wait to get rid of him, then when we did the rue started. Just like 90% of that place was all up in arms about trading for another bigtime WR (Roy Williams) but after we did and he didnt produce, they all acted like they knew the trade was stupid all along and bashed it.

 

[Theebs]

The officiating didn't cost us anything. We had every right to challange that play and we didn't. Personally, i didn't think it was a fumble, and it wouldn't have been reversed had we challanged. We got the ball back the next play anyway.

As for the confusion and sloppiness.. if only one WR on our team knows the Z position, that is a problem.. and its poor preperation and lack of preparedness by the head coach to not have a back up plan if Austin gets injured. That wasn't the only issue, but it was a big part of it. Also with the poor snaps, how we let that go on the entire game without making an adjustment to correct it is also poor game management. The coaching staff has to recognize that its a problem and adjust.

U must be confused, Garrett wanted to challenge the fumble but couldn't because hochuli said it wasn't a fumble and didn't rule on who recovered.....and go watch the game if you are going to be this arrogant with what you say.....it was clearly a fumble and we recovered....pretty basic stuff..

And on the wr's how is it the coaches fault,DEz and ogle tree should know it but when they got in the game they were making mistakes and that is where the coaches made adjustments in personnel.

Pretty basic stuff.

 

[Theebs]

Yup. Would love to still have Crayton right now. Why you trade away the franchise QB's safety valve is beyond me.

Thats jason witten.

Sure your a cowboys fan?

 

[Midswat]

Dez Freakin' Bryant doesn't need to learn the Z position.

The Z position needs to evolve to better suit Dez Freakin' Bryant.

 

[Theebs]

Dez Freakin' Bryant doesn't need to learn the Z position.

The Z position needs to evolve to better suit Dez Freakin' Bryant.

I give dez a break here. I just dont think he was healthy enough to play, he clearly couldnt run....He had to have his thigh drained all week, whatever the hell that means..

 

[Rock Slamdance]

Roy, that was a fumble, plain and simple. Check your inbox, I sent you a coupon code for Lens Crafters.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

U must be confused, Garrett wanted to challenge the fumble but couldn't because hochuli said it wasn't a fumble and didn't rule on who recovered.....and go watch the game if you are going to be this arrogant with what you say.....it was clearly a fumble and we recovered....pretty basic stuff..

And on the wr's how is it the coaches fault,DEz and ogle tree should know it but when they got in the game they were making mistakes and that is where the coaches made adjustments in personnel.

Pretty basic stuff.

I don't think it was "clearly" anything.. imo, his knee came down almost exactly when the ball came out. If Eddie Boy ruled that the play wasn't a fumble, that's certainly challangable. Like i said though, we got the ball right back after that anyway, so it really didn't cost us anything.

The WR issue is the coaches fault if we only have one WR who knows the Z position. Pretty basic stuff, indeed.