VP Debate

[UVAwahoos]

There's the model he used. I'm glad that you're using it too.

I said $600 billion as opposed to that graph showing $425 for extending the tax cuts, so correct that if you want. You can also add in TARP if you want--its been paid back anyway.

Hell, even make up some other shit and add it in also. You'll still get nowhere close to what you've been saying in this thread.

 

[Sheik]

You're missing nearly $5 tril in debt that's been added since January 2009.

Just because it isn't new policy, it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

 

[UVAwahoos]

you dispute the deficit spending has been a trillion+ the last 3+ years?

Show me where I'm wrong.

Derp.

 

[bkeavs]

He acted like an ass. Not like somebody worthy of the position he holds. That's not debatable.

Cause the republicans always act dignified. Give me a break. Didn't they call the leader of the United States a liar during his speech in front of congress. I wasn't into the smiling that he did but for once it was nice to see a democrat taking the fight to a republican and not acting like a pussy that they are known for. I was shocked how exposed Paul Ryan was. It's basically trust us. Well take care of it platform

 

[dbair1967]

lol

Where'd you copy/paste those numbers from?

If you're going to say "$6 trillion in 4 years" then give us a breakdown of it. Or else just admit that you're talking about of your ass and repeating something you heard on Hannity's radio show.

when is 6 trillion not really 6 trillion?

when dumbfuck liberals come into the conversation

 

[dbair1967]

3 things.

1. Biden came off as a huge dick. Smarmy douche.

2. I'd say if anything, Joe might have stopped the bleeding from last week, as far as the debate performance his boss had. There's still the Libya scandal to deal with, which Uncle Joe lied about tonight.

3. The moderator was too much in the spotlight. Lehrer did a nice job last week of letting the debate evolve. Biden was allowed to speak his points, on the other hand Ryan was interrupted by the moderator on several occasions.

If you can get past Biden's condescending, rude demeanor, you could say he was on offense for most of the debate, which in turn would be a W for him, IMO.

I honestly didnt think anyone really "won", although Biden was a huge dick and the mod was a huge flaming liberal supporter who's bias was rather evident.

CNN has a poll up I saw that said a slim margin believe Ryan won the debate.

Biden just further proved what a huge liar him and the rest of this administration is by spinning the libya thing more.

 

[peplaw06]

I don't know how anyone could have a firm opinion on who won or lost after that debacle last night. I didn't watch the presidential debate and I wish I hadn't watched this one. Between Biden's constant interrupting, laughing, goofy grinning, and condescending "my friend" bullshit, and Ryan's cheesy, over-rehearsed, politispeak, any substance that was there couldn't register.

I'm thinking in order to have a firm opinion, you would have to either base it on Biden being offensive (in more than one way) all night, or you're just falling along party lines.

Maybe that's what resonates with voters now?

 

[superpunk]

Gave me more confidence that Obama will go after Romney's lies in the next debate. The first one they were laying low, building momentum now.

republicans are sore losers.

 

[Sheik]

Gave me more confidence that Obama will go after Romney's lies in the next debate. The first one they were laying low, building momentum now.

republicans are sore losers.

Are they going to allow a prompter at the next debate?

Nice.

 

[superpunk]

I don't think they'll need it.

A liberal a moderate and a conservative walk into a bar. Bartender says "What'll ya have, Mitt?"

Obama and his camp weren't ready for moderate-liberal Mitt. They will be this time.

 

[Sheik]

We shall see. The facts are on Romney's side.

The problem is, Obama can't say "look what I did. Moar?" While Romney can say, "wtf have you done?"

 

[bkeavs]

"paul ryan looks like the type of guy that when he shakes your hand he shakes it real hard so you know how strong he is" Bill Maher

 

[superpunk]

The facts are on Romney's side.

Possibly the funniest thing you've ever said.

 

[Sheik]

Possibly the funniest thing you've ever said.

I'm sure he's done a fantastic job in your view.

The fact is, he's pretty much matched Bush's ineptness of 8 years in half that time.

 

[superpunk]

lol

You're on a roll this morning.

Stopping the meteoric rise of unemployment seen under Bush, and reversing it for about three years now? Biggest healthcare reform in our history? Ending an expensive war? Wall street reform? All while having to battle the biggest do-nothing congress in our nation's history?

He hasn't been all that was promised but he's done a pretty good job.

 

[cmd34]

Stopping the meteoric rise of unemployment seen under Bush, and reversing it for about three years now? +100 points Biggest healthcare reform in our history? +500 points Ending an expensive war? +1000 points Wall street reform?+100 points All while having to battle the biggest do-nothing congress in our nation's history?

He hasn't been all that was promised but he's done a pretty good job.

So that's +1700 points but being Black -100,000 points
so he's at negative 98,300 points. Any other sitting President that signed off on the order to successfully take out Bin Laden would be a hero. Obama does it and it's "no big deal". He could care cancer tomorrow and people would find ways to minimalize it. The guy can literally do no right in many people's eyes and there's got to be a reason for that.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

You really think he deserves credit for killing Bin Laden? To the point of being a hero?

How many other presidents do you think would have said when we had him in our sights, "Naw, let him go?"

I get why some people like Obama, but getting Bin Laden would be about the last reason I can think of.

 

[bkeavs]

You really think he deserves credit for killing Bin Laden? To the point of being a hero?

How many other presidents do you think would have said when we had him in our sights, "Naw, let him go?"

I get why some people like Obama, but getting Bin Laden would be about the last reason I can think of.

So he shouldnt get any credit to killing the greatest terrorist to the united states that has ever lived. Who should get the credit than?

 

[dbair1967]

Gave me more confidence that Obama will go after Romney's lies in the next debate. The first one they were laying low, building momentum now.

republicans are sore losers.

lol...lies

dude, seriously give this shit up...

 

[dbair1967]

So he shouldnt get any credit to killing the greatest terrorist to the united states that has ever lived. Who should get the credit than?

Gee I dunno, maybe the people who actually risked their lives and pulled off that great operation?

It sure as hell isnt that pussy President of ours. Its insulting to our men and women in uniform to even suggest it.