Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

[Midswat]

Defense is trying to debunk her statement but her statement keeps changing to whatever she thinks will be most helpful to the prosecution's case.

 

[JBond]

That didnt happen you're not retarded.

Again if my head is being bounced off of concrete I'm not able to pull out and fire any gun and I am not able to remember details.


That didnt happen.

You can stop your idiotic all or nothing posts anytime. You are making an ass out of yourself. You can hit your head and still shoot the attacker. The Trayvon crowd has lost any semblance of rational thought.

 

[JBond]

Which is it?


He was afraid for his life yet he had full range of motion and remembers everything?

Desperation setting in for the pro Trayvon folks. Read your stupid question again. Obviously you can fear for your life and still shoot your attacker.

 

[2233boys]

A little more difficult to believe that your life is in danger if you have the wherewithal to do all that. I mean we are lead to believe in this thread alone that his head was being bashed repeatedly against the concrete. If that was the case the chances he had a severe concussion would be very high, MB4 point remains. You can't have it both ways, either his life was endanger because of a severe beating, or he overreacted because he was scared.

 

[2233boys]

I am not sure this can happen, but can the prosecution claim that the injuries that occurred weren't significant enough to claim self defense? I really have no doubt he was scared, but he overreacted. I also believe that his actions directly lead to the incident and had he just reported it and stayed in his car, this tragedy never happens.

 

[Midswat]

A little more difficult to believe that your life is in danger if you have the wherewithal to do all that. I mean we are lead to believe in this thread alone that his head was being bashed repeatedly against the concrete.

That was occuing. There's no disputing that. There's photographic evidence of him bleeding from the back of his head.

If that was the case the chances he had a severe concussion would be very high, MB4 point remains. You can't have it both ways, either his life was endanger because of a severe beating, or he overreacted because he was scared.

Mb4s point doesn't stand. It's not mutually exclusive.

 

[2233boys]

That was occuing. There's no disputing that. There's photographic evidence of him bleeding from the back of his head.




Mb4s point doesn't stand. It's not mutually exclusive.

See I have a hard time believing it was as bad as you claim because of his ability to get the gun and fire, and seemingly have perfect recollection of what happened. It doesn't make sense if the beating is bad as you can he claim it was. You could get scratches and bleeding from rolling around on the ground in a fight. That being said, I don't doubt he was scared, because he was getting his ass beat but I think he overacted and don't for a second believe his life was ever in danger. I am not sure that matters though, and that is why I made post 1785.

If all it takes for a self defense claim is to say you were scared, no matter how ridiculous or how badly you may have overreacted, than he may get off. I find it hard to believe that he will just walk. I think he will get some jail time for this.

 

[Jon88]

Jabba the Hutt is taking the stand again

 

[NoDak]

It is entirely possible to be taking shots to the head and still be able to function, both physically and mentally. It's not that hard to understand, really.

How could somebody take repeated shots to the skull from a guy like George Foreman and still continue on round after round? The way some are carrying on, after the first overhand right landed, a coma would follow.

I've been in numerous fights in the past where I'd been punched/kicked in the head, or hit with things like beer bottles. And was still able to continue fighting. Adrenaline is an amazingly powerful thing. Just because Zimmerman was taking shots to his head hard enough to cause a bleeding wound wouldn't automatically render him unable to think or react.

 

[Midswat]

It is entirely possible to be taking shots to the head and still be able to function, both physically and mentally. It's not that hard to understand, really.

How could somebody take repeated shots to the skull from a guy like George Foreman and still continue on round after round? The way some are carrying on, after the first overhand right landed, a coma would follow.

I've been in numerous fights in the past where I'd been punched/kicked in the head, or hit with things like beer bottles. And was still able to continue fighting. Adrenaline is an amazingly powerful thing. Just because Zimmerman was taking shots to his head hard enough to cause a bleeding wound wouldn't automatically render him unable to think or react.

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[Midswat]

Mr. West is an idiot.

 

[iceberg]

It is entirely possible to be taking shots to the head and still be able to function, both physically and mentally. It's not that hard to understand, really.

How could somebody take repeated shots to the skull from a guy like George Foreman and still continue on round after round? The way some are carrying on, after the first overhand right landed, a coma would follow.

I've been in numerous fights in the past where I'd been punched/kicked in the head, or hit with things like beer bottles. And was still able to continue fighting. Adrenaline is an amazingly powerful thing. Just because Zimmerman was taking shots to his head hard enough to cause a bleeding wound wouldn't automatically render him unable to think or react.

when you've already made up your mind, you're willing to twist facts so you don't have to change it.

 

[VTA]

If all it takes for a self defense claim is to say you were scared, no matter how ridiculous or how badly you may have overreacted, than he may get off. I find it hard to believe that he will just walk. I think he will get some jail time for this.

I pretty sure self defense without first contact is acceptable when trapped with no choice of retreat. Once contact is made, just about any contact, you are able o claim self defense. As soon as you lay your hand on a person, they have the right of self defense.

 

[Jon88]

We need more Haitian immigrants immediately.

 

[Midswat]

Defense done with cross examination. Finally.

 

[Jon88]

I wonder how many more witnesses will be called.

 

[Midswat]

West: "I understand you speak three languages. Which one did you learn first?"

DeeDee: "I learnt all three first."

 

[Midswat]

Thought West did a great job there with his final question....

"So Trayvon reffered to white people as 'crackas.'"

Deedee mean mugged for like 20 seconds before mumbling "I dont recall."




Certainly sounds like Trayvon was a racist.

 

[Jon88]

Does your mom speak English?

Not very well, sir.

I understand that she may have limitations, but does she speak English?

NOT VERY WELL, SIR!

 

[Midswat]