Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

[iceberg]

You know im right man.

Maybe the media wants to make it one way bc It's a better story but you know you're looking at trayvon and you don't care because his name is trayvon. Why else would you bend everything to make Zimmerman seem to be in the right?

didn't you just bitch me out cause i had to have it my way?

i've said both sides could have done things differently to avoid a tragic outcome. fuck you and your crap.

 

[Jon88]

Oh wow. A shot to the heart can't be the most pleasant of deaths.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

You know if it was a black dude following and shooting a little white kid you would be on other side. Confesssss

 

[iceberg]

You know if it was a black dude following and shooting a little white kid you would be on other side. Confesssss

fuck you.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Zimmerman offered him tea and biscuits and asked kindly what is he doing I know this

 

[Jon88]

You know if it was a black dude following and shooting a little white kid you would be on other side. Confesssss

Not if he started swinging and beating the guy's head on the concrete, no.

 

[Midswat]

You know if it was a black dude following and shooting a little white kid you would be on other side. Confesssss

Don't you mean a black dude following a mexican kid?

 

[Midswat]

Seems like pizzaorsoemthingthe4th is the one bringing race into this, not iceberg.

I could be mistaken though becuase I generally don't read icebergs posts.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

fuck you.

Did you switch them in your head? Did you do it and still think the way you think ? Or are you scared?

 

[Jon88]

Don't you mean a black dude following a mexican kid?

White Hispanic

(Whatever the fuck that is)

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Not if he started swinging and beating the guy's head on the concrete, no.

If my head got beat into the concrete I wouldn't be able to give such detailed accounts of what happened. Can't have it both ways

 

[iceberg]

Seems like pizzaorsoemthingthe4th is the one bringing race into this, not iceberg.

I could be mistaken though becuase I generally don't read icebergs posts.

i generally don't read them either.

in this case all i want are all the facts and history that could have led up to this and what *either* side could have been done differently. race-baiter is just being a jackass.

 

[Midswat]

As long as we all agree that Zimmermann is innocent, which we all seem to.

And we all also agree that the sensationalism of this case from the media is shameful, which again we all seem to.

Alrighty then.

 

[Jon88]

If my head got beat into the concrete I wouldn't be able to give such detailed accounts of what happened. Can't have it both ways

It's not like his brains were falling out.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

As long as we all agree that Zimmermann is innocent, which we all seem to.

And we all also agree that the sensationalism of this case from the media is shameful, which again we all seem to.

Alrighty then.

Did you notice the dead child in the pictures you posted?

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

It's not like his brains were falling out.

So no concussion?

Had the range of motion and wherewithal to grab and fire a gun, remembers that trayvon said "you are dead now!!!", yet his life was in danger from his head bouncing off of concrete ....

 

[Midswat]

Did you notice the dead child in the pictures you posted?

Noticed the dead man.

Never seen a 6'2" child before.

 

[Jon88]

So no concussion?

Had the range of motion and wherewithal to grab and fire a gun, remembers that trayvon said "you are dead now!!!", yet his life was in danger from his head bouncing off of concrete ....

Does it matter? His head was being bounced on the concrete. I've had mine bounced on the concrete and driven home. What's your experience with concrete?

 

[peplaw06]

so zimmerman knew trayvon was in fights and stole stuff before?

all i'm out to do is understand why someone got so upset that they were asked why they were in a gated community. did he have to respond w/violence? how many times before in this country has a neighborhood watch person asked someone why they were in their community?

i also take issue with it being forced into a racial issue when zimmerman, as far as i've ever heard, never used any racial commentary. i'm sick and tired of that card being played by jesse jackson and company as if it's a "get out of jail free" card that can forgive them of any responsibility for their own actions.

as far as what zimmerman did, best i can tell it was:

1. noticed trayvon acting funny (and yes pizza boy thc can make you do that so shut the fuck up with stupid non-connected extremes)
2. called 911 and said he was going to follow
3. trayvon notices being followed
4. zimmerman being told NOT to follow
5. zimmerman loses track of trayvon anyway and goes back to his truck - NO LONGER FOLLOWING trayvon.
6. trayvon comes up to zimmerman and asks him what his problem is
7. zimmerman asking him who he is
8. trayvon starts hitting him making threats
9. zimmermans head is being banged on the ground and he's calling out for help
10. gun comes into play
11. trayvon, tragically, is killed in the process.

i'm not saying zimmerman did everything right OR wrong. i AM saying trayvon screwed up quite a few opportunities also along the way. at this point one life has ended and the other will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

to dismiss one sides actions to shed more guilt on another, well that's a sad part of the state of our society. selective responsibility.

Hey if you believe everything Zimmerman says happened, then I guess that's your prerogative.

 

[peplaw06]

Seems like pizzaorsoemthingthe4th is the one bringing race into this, not iceberg.

I could be mistaken though becuase I generally don't read icebergs posts.

There's no doubt Trayvon's race played a part in Zimmerman's head on that night. If it had been a white or Mexican kid walking around, this probably never happens.