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Guess you missed the part where Zimmerman was the one leaving when he was attacked. The barbarian spin master hard at work.
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Guess you missed the part where Zimmerman was the one leaving when he was attacked. The barbarian spin master hard at work.
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The racism is him calling trayvon a piece of shit just by looking at him and following him without any provocation. That's the point. If he didn't judge him and stayed in his car the kid isn't dead.
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As spunk has pointed out, Zimmerman had no idea who he was or any history with him. What he did know was there were little shits (little shits being thieves) breaking into cars and homes in the area and getting away with it. Why would you assume he was talking about black people in general? That is kind of silly on your part. Context is needed. Obviously he was talking about the thieves. Of course later on we discover Trayvon is a thief. We have no idea is he was ransacking and stealing that night, but maybe that will come out in the trial.
Either way the trial comes out, I will be fine with it. I am glad we have a system of justice to deal with such matters, unlike the crazy loons that wanted to lynch people without all the facts being known.
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He seems to show a certain hatred towards certain people. So do you. You both might be racist little pricks and not even realize it.
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You got that right
You got that right
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Marion...you are the one obsessing about the amount of skin pigment someone has. Not me. My question for you is would we have even heard about this if it was one black guy shooting another? Why the obsession about a white....I mean hispanic jew shooting a someone? 600 murders in Chicago last year and no one cares. Why the obsession about this case nationally?
Skin color means nothing to me. I see this as a case of a punk (by the way a punk can have any color of skin) that picked on the wrong guy. No skin color involved. He was lucky the bus driver he attacked didn't shoot him a couple of weeks earlier.
Skin color means nothing to me. I see this as a case of a punk (by the way a punk can have any color of skin) that picked on the wrong guy. No skin color involved. He was lucky the bus driver he attacked didn't shoot him a couple of weeks earlier.
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If your son got killed for maybe punching a Hispanic with a gun and a criminal past and an agenda against you how would you feel?
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Wrong.
It's all but been established that fat and ugly people are prosecuted at a higher rate than the normal and good looking people.
Zimmerman has essentially ate his way into a conviction.
My son wouldn't have a criminal past because I wouldn't raise him to be a criminal the way Trayvon was raised.
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The defense would be introducing evidence of Trayvon's prior bad acts to try to show conduct in conformity with those acts. It's prejudicial effect on the jury would outweigh the probative value. It's a classic example of character evidence that should be inadmissible. Obviously the judge makes the decision, so it's up to her. But I'd be shocked.
It's the same reason when a convicted felon is on trial for a new felony, you can't bring up their prior convictions until the punishment phase. You don't want someone convicted on what they did in the past.
Edit: I actually could see a relevance objection as well. If Zimmerman didn't KNOW about Trayvon's past run-ins, then why would it have anything to do with his mindset (i.e. stand your ground, self-defense, etc.)?
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I've always like that way of thinking about it.
Getting beat up is a justifiable reason for killing a person but getting tracked down by some unknown stranger isn't a justifiable enough reason for defending yourself and beating that person up.
Of course, this all hinges on Zimmerman's story of flat out getting jumped being the true story.
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Well that and your son wouldn't be put in these situations, Jon. Any hispanics or dark-skinned fellers in your neighborhood would have already been given the business for passing in front of your truck and not submissively staring at the ground while they did it.
If you menacingly stare at me while you're walking by my truck, continue to stare in the same manner when you walk in front of it, then stop and walk up to my truck with that same menacing stare, you're going to piss me off and I will shoot you if you open my door.
What don't you understand about that?
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The part where you've managed to operate a vehicle
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"I will shoot you if you try to carjack me".
You could have saved yourself a lot of ridicule earlier in the thread if you would have said something that reasonable from the beginning. Instead you said he just stared at you and that you sped past him while telling him you were about to shoot him.
What the fuck......
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How much better would the story be if he were in a taxi the whole time?