peplaw06
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If he wouldn't have put Martin in fear for his life, he wouldn't have been assaulted either.
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Martin was so scared for his life that he
(1) Made no attempts to contact authorities himself, instead kept talking to his girlfriend.
(2) Made no attempt to contact his father, who he was staying with. Instead, kept talking to his girlfriend.
(3) Made no attempt to hurry home.
(4) Elected to wait for Zimmerman and ambush him.
Derp
peplaw06
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Zimmerman following Martin isn't what put Martin in fear for his life.
Derp.
Edit: And you have the facts wrong. Martin tried to escape.
Caught the initial hearing on DVR. Basically what happened is O'Mara went piece by piece and dismantled the affidavit with the lead investigator on the stand under oath.
He pointed out in the affidavit that they said Zimmerman "confronted" Trayvon.
He went on to say that the word "confronted" is antagonistic and asked the lead investigator if there was any evidence that he was aware of that Zimmerman started a fight and contradicts Zimmermans statement he made to police.
Lead Investigators answer? "No."
Lead Investigator also admitted there is no forensic proof that it was Trayvon screaming on the tape.
Case dismissed.
He pointed out in the affidavit that they said Zimmerman "confronted" Trayvon.
He went on to say that the word "confronted" is antagonistic and asked the lead investigator if there was any evidence that he was aware of that Zimmerman started a fight and contradicts Zimmermans statement he made to police.
Lead Investigators answer? "No."
Lead Investigator also admitted there is no forensic proof that it was Trayvon screaming on the tape.
Case dismissed.
peplaw06
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You're assuming Zimmerman is telling the truth. And I have to speculate as to what Martin's emotions were, just like everyone will. The only person that could testify as to what his emotions were is dead.
You're so backwards in this it ain't funny.
peplaw06
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Must be why the judge set bail at $150,000 and put electronic monitoring on Zimmerman. Sounds like case dismissed to me.
Good luck trying to convict someone by simply hoping 12 members of a jury speculate the same way you do.
150k is low, especially a case this magnitude.
And electronic monitoring is because they're allowing Zimmerman out of state travel. You know, on account of all the death threats he's receiving.
ORLY?
Dershowitz Blasts Zimmerman Prosecution: 'Not Only Immoral, But Stupid'
by Breitbart News 58 minutes ago
With ABC News’ release of the George Zimmerman photo showing blood flowing freely from his head, the question becomes whether Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the case, had access to the photo before charging Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
The arrest affidavit did not mention the photograph, or the bleeding, gashes, and bruises on Zimmermans’ head. Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School stated upon release of the arrest affidavit that it was “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”
After the release of the photo, however, Dershowitz went much further, telling Breitbart News that if the prosecutors did have the photo and didn’t mention it in the affidavit, that would constitute a “grave ethical violation,” since affidavits are supposed to contain “all relevant information.”
Dershowitz continued, “An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie."
When asked if it made a difference whether the prosecution had the bloody photograph at the time they charged Zimmerman, Dershowitz responded, “We do know that there were earlier photographs before the affidavit was done that strongly suggested blood on the back of the head, and we know the police had first access to him, so if there was blood they [the prosecution] would know about it …
"I've had cases in Florida against prosecutors,” Dershowitz said, “and this is not the first time they have willfully omitted exculpatory evidence. It's a continuing problem. Here, it’s not only immoral, but stupid. The whole country is watching. What do they benefit from having half-truths in an affidavit?"
Dershowitz added, "I'm not taking sides, but I'm insisting that both sides play by the rules, and so far the prosecution is not playing by the rules."
by Breitbart News 58 minutes ago
With ABC News’ release of the George Zimmerman photo showing blood flowing freely from his head, the question becomes whether Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the case, had access to the photo before charging Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
The arrest affidavit did not mention the photograph, or the bleeding, gashes, and bruises on Zimmermans’ head. Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School stated upon release of the arrest affidavit that it was “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”
After the release of the photo, however, Dershowitz went much further, telling Breitbart News that if the prosecutors did have the photo and didn’t mention it in the affidavit, that would constitute a “grave ethical violation,” since affidavits are supposed to contain “all relevant information.”
Dershowitz continued, “An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie."
When asked if it made a difference whether the prosecution had the bloody photograph at the time they charged Zimmerman, Dershowitz responded, “We do know that there were earlier photographs before the affidavit was done that strongly suggested blood on the back of the head, and we know the police had first access to him, so if there was blood they [the prosecution] would know about it …
"I've had cases in Florida against prosecutors,” Dershowitz said, “and this is not the first time they have willfully omitted exculpatory evidence. It's a continuing problem. Here, it’s not only immoral, but stupid. The whole country is watching. What do they benefit from having half-truths in an affidavit?"
Dershowitz added, "I'm not taking sides, but I'm insisting that both sides play by the rules, and so far the prosecution is not playing by the rules."
peplaw06
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lol ok. I'm sure his bondsman agrees with you.
lol again. Yes, because bond conditions are usually set in order to protect the defendant.
peplaw06
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Pretty sure Zimmerman admitted reaching for his cell phone after Martin asked him why he was following him. It's definitely not rocket science to figure out what Martin thought that meant. Hence the attack.
peplaw06
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Midswat citing an extreme leftist defense attorney to support his agenda? This story has made for some strange bedfellows.
The fact that an extreme leftist defense attorney supports my agenda ought to tell you something about this horrifically flawed and media driven case.
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I think it costs like 1,500 to actually post that bail through a bail bonds service.