Tony Dungy takes shots at Jones and Snyder

[Irving Cowboy]

Tony Dungy's opinion of Dan Snyder? "I would not want to work for him"
Nick Creegan
FOX Sports
DEC 05, 2013 4:30a ET

Last season Robert Griffin III was playing great football, the Redskins were winning games and not too many people, if any, were looking at the way Dan Snyder was running the show in the nation's capitol.

Now, the Redskins are bad ... again. For Redskins fans, this isn't anything new. In fact, Last year's success was a rare occurrence because for the 11th time in 12 years, they are below .500 at the start of December. This isn't a good look for Dan Snyder and and even worse look for Mike Shanahan who is the sixth head coach over the past 13 seasons. The turnover rate has been high in D.C and Shanahan's future hasn't been determined yet.

Tony Dungy brought attention to the Redskins ownership this week while discussing why it isn't easy being RGIII on the Dan Patrick radio show.

"€œI think the whole thing gets kind of exacerbated in Washington, with the whole setup there, the way it's been, the owner and everything, and the press,"€ Dungy said. "RGIII'€™s gonna be okay, just like Cam Newton. Now in three or four years, he matures, he'€™s playing great football, maybe he's matured a little bit, but they're winning more, he's playing better, so now it all looks pretty good. Whereas when you'€™re not winning, everything seems to be a negative."

"You think Mike Shanahan will survive?"€ Patrick asked.

"That hasn'€™t been the history in Washington,"€ Dungy said. "€œCoaches haven't lasted a long time there. I think it would be best for them in the long run to stay with this offense and keep building and keep some continuity. I'™m not sure it's going to happen."€

"€œWould you want to work for him? For Daniel Snyder?"€ Patrick asked.

"No, no,"€ Dungy said. "€œWhen you'€™re interviewing coaches for the job, and you haven'€™t told me I'€™ve lost the job yet? No, I would NOT want to work for him."

This is probably a reference to the fact Jim Zorn wasn't notified that he was losing his job before Shanahan was contacted by Snyder.

"If I said you could work for Daniel Snyder, or Jerry Jones, or not work at all?"€ Patrick tried.

"Let's just say I'€™m retired from the NFL,"€ Dungy said.

"œSo you would rather not work than to work under those two guys?"€ Patrick probed.

"€œNo, I think I could work for anybody,"€ Dungy said. "€œWhen you work for Dan Rooney, you work for Lamar Hunt, you work for Jim Irsay, even the Glazers were great to me, and let me pass or fail based on my ability. I think that's what you're looking for as a head coach, and I don'™t know that you get that in Washington or Dallas. The problem I have with both those organizations: You'™ve got to build a team; that'€™s how you win championships. You can'™t just say we'€™re gonna bring in the best player, we're gonna bring in guys, it doesn'™t matter what kind of teammates they are or what type of history they have, if we get star players we'™re gonna be good. And I think both of those owners think that'™s the case: The more star players you have, the better you'€™re gonna be. And that's not how you build championship teams."

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CZ will start posting gifs of Dungy burning at the stake here in a few hours...

 

[Cowboysrule122]

Damn....my eyes!

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

I don't necessarily disagree with him overall, but I can't blame Snyder too much since he hired Shanahan and Allen. And I don't blame him for talking to Shanahan before Zorn was officially gone any more than I do Jerry for talking to Parcells before Campo was fired. There's almost no other way to do it if you're going for a top coach.

 

[Cowboysrule122]

Good, maybe the Redskins will fold when we play them. I doubt it though.

 

[Future585]

I didn't bother reading, but Tony Dungy looks like an alien, so I don't care.

 

[Jon88]

He's always got some kind of opinion and it usually involves an agenda.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Good, maybe the Redskins will fold when we play them. I doubt it though.

Weren't you the one that was spouting off as to how the Redskins were going to go on a run just like last year? So what happened?

Sheik also claimed that the Redskins were going to win the division.


What I hate most though... the Redskins will have sense enough to dump Shanahan, while we'll plod along with Garrett.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

You guys think Shanahan is a bad coach, though? Should they dump him? I don't think so. Who are they going to get who's better? I think he has enough of a track record to hold off and see if this was just one of those terrible years that happens in the NFL.

 

[Jon88]

I think he's a good coach. They need to stick with him for one more year.

I wonder how Dungy feels about Mike Tomlin?

 

[boozeman]

I didn't bother reading, but Tony Dungy looks like an alien, so I don't care.

Nope. Zombie.

 

[Future585]

You guys think Shanahan is a bad coach, though? Should they dump him? I don't think so. Who are they going to get who's better? I think he has enough of a track record to hold off and see if this was just one of those terrible years that happens in the NFL.

He has a reall long track record of mediocrity. I've always thought he's overrated.

 

[Midswat]

I don't know about Shannahan if he's good or not.

Maybe he was good back in the day, like Parcells, and just kind of sucks today, like Parcells did at the end of his run with us.

I mean, hard not to win with Elway, Davis, Sharpe, Rod Smith, and that zone blocking scheme.

Then again, he did have a Jake Plummer (I think) QB'd team in the AFC Title game.

But he sucks as a talent evaluator (also kinda like Parcells).

I dunno... let them keep him. Let them also eat cake.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Shanny is very overrated IMO. He lucked into a 2,000 yard RB from the 6th round and a magical Elway run of health/not choking for a couple seasons in Denver (with some solid assistants by the way) but his teams have been pretty meh since that time. His son Kyle is definitely a bigger part of the problem, but if he insists that they're a package deal, then both should be canned.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

You guys think Shanahan is a bad coach, though? Should they dump him? I don't think so. Who are they going to get who's better? I think he has enough of a track record to hold off and see if this was just one of those terrible years that happens in the NFL.

Actually I don't think he's a bad coach. Coaching is not the problem with the Redskins, lack of talent is their problem.

I'm not saying that I would like to have Shanahan, but this team with what they have now, would be a better team with Shanahan as HC. Naturally he is better than Garrett, but that's setting the bar too low. As decent a coach Shanahan happens to be, on the flip side, he's nearly equally bad in talent evaluation particularly on the defensive side.

I would prefer Gruden over Shanahan. I hope the Redskins do keep Shanahan, because I feel they will make a beeline to Gruden once they dump him.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

I hear you on Elway, though even then you could argue that Elway had been in the league 15 years or whatever and didn't win until Shanny got there. And he has been able to get production out of later round or undrafted RBs for 15 years now, so that's worth something. That's more his system than the actual backs, but still, the production has been there.

What really impressed me about Denver, though, was after Elway was gone. Like Mid said, he got a long way with Jake Friggin Plummer, who was terribly limited to say the least. And then I thought it was a good move to get Cutler. Cutler isn't great, but he's pretty good as hard as it is to find QBs in this league.

Anyway, if they fire him who do they get? I'm not sure who would necessarily be better barring some kind of blockbuster hire that I don't see right now.

Edit, good point from Laz on Gruden. He'd probably be a guy Danny would like. Without looking it up, though, didn't he and Allen have some friction at Tampa? Not positive they were there at the same time, but I thought so. Or maybe Danny would fire him, too.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

I think he's a good coach. They need to stick with him for one more year.

I wonder how Dungy feels about Mike Tomlin?

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[Jon88]

I can't believe he thought he could get away with that. Dirty thing to do.

 

[2233boys]

I can't believe he thought he could get away with that. Dirty thing to do.

He clearly didn't do it on purpose.

 

[Jon88]

You're mistaken. He was watching the whole play on the jumbotron and was laughing about it afterwards.

 

[NoDak]

He clearly didn't do it on purpose.

Wait, what? You think Tomlin didn't do that on purpose?

Aside from the fact he was looking over his shoulder at the returner? Why wouldn't he be facing the play like oh, I don't know, every other coach during every other play in history. Or his shit eating grin right after the play was over? Nope, No guilt there.

Have you seen the replay from the Ravens endzone? You can clearly see he was facing away from the play, looking up at the jumbo screen until the returner was getting close, then changed to looking over his shoulder. At the last second, you can see him take a step out on to the field in front of the returner, then jumping back, changing his path from the sideline towards the field of play. Allowing the defender to cut down on the angle.

You not only said he didn't do it on purpose, but stated it was CLEAR he didn't. Please explain to us how you came to that conclusion.