Thinking about the unthinkable

[dbair1967]

We should run the ball more when we had the lead. It's how you consistently win games. We didn't. Why are we throwing on 1st down with a 24 point lead in the 2nd half? Why are we throwing on 1st down the very next series after Romo throws an INT that is ran back for a TD? Know your players. Know Romo. It isn't just this game, it's the past few years. Garrett has shown he wants to throw the ball as much as possible. Romo needs to be reigned in a little. Call more run plays when we have the lead. Make third down more manageable. Take time off the clock. Play the field position game. Rely on a defense that had done it's job up to that point.

Its great if you can run th ball, but its pretty much a proven statistical fact now that you cant run to win football games. Its a passing league, and the better passing teams will usually score more points. How many championships do Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson have? None. And most likely their teams wont win one anytime soon either.

In the 2nd half we had 11 runs and 19 passes. The last 7 passes came on the final drive of the game, when we had no choice but to throw. So we had a nearly perfect 50/50 balance. We had two three and outs where we ran on half the plays. I dont see how you can continue to argue about running the ball more, when it was pretty much shown we werent capable of sustaining drives by running the ball. You do what you are good at. Thats what good coaches do. You dont fit the square peg into the round hole.

 

[Cr122]

Get your QB back in the game. He just threw 2 demoralizing ints for TDs. Safe passes. Build his confidence back up.

Especially knowing the kind of mindset he has. He's an extreme competitor. He has probably too much confidence in his abilities.

Reign him in. Take back control of the game.

In which he didn't. FAIL.

 

[cmd34]

Its great if you can run th ball, but its pretty much a proven statistical fact now that you cant run to win football games. Its a passing league, and the better passing teams will usually score more points. How many championships do Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson have? None. And most likely their teams wont win one anytime soon either.

In the 2nd half we had 11 runs and 19 passes. The last 7 passes came on the final drive of the game, when we had no choice but to throw. So we had a nearly perfect 50/50 balance. We had two three and outs where we ran on half the plays. I dont see how you can continue to argue about running the ball more, when it was pretty much shown we werent capable of sustaining drives by running the ball. You do what you are good at. Thats what good coaches do. You dont fit the square peg into the round hole.

So with all of your griping about Romo your answer is to keep on throwing?

 

[dbair1967]

So with all of your griping about Romo your answer is to keep on throwing?

Taken from FWST: Tony Romo was 23 for his first 28 for 234 yards, three touchdowns and a 137.2 passer rating Sunday

Was the run game ever as succesful for us as this? No, and it wasnt even close.

 

[dbair1967]

So with all of your griping about Romo your answer is to keep on throwing?

And my griping with Romo has to do with basic decision making. Him throwing less does nothing to negate his poor decision making.

 

[Cr122]

If anything Romo needs to stop throwing it 50 times a game. He's prone to more mistakes the more times he's throwing.

It still doesn't negate the fact he needs to make better decisions though. They were 3 costly mistakes. Shame on him.

And yeah, I agree we need to run the ball more so we can manage the game clock better.

 

[cmd34]

Taken from FWST: Tony Romo was 23 for his first 28 for 234 yards, three touchdowns and a 137.2 passer rating Sunday

Was the run game ever as succesful for us as this? No, and it wasnt even close.

Yes, Romo and the team did a great job of getting us a big lead, no one is arguing that. No one is saying we passed too much in the 1st Half.

Where we differ is whether or not losing a big lead was all on Romo or if Garrett had some fault in it. That, and what we can do better in the future to keep leads.

 

[dbair1967]

Yes, Romo and the team did a great job of getting us a big lead, no one is arguing that. No one is saying we passed too much in the
1st Half.

Where we differ is whether or not losing a big lead was all on Romo or if Garrett had some fault in it. That, and what we can do better in the future to keep leads.

All Romo, because he is the one who threw 3 awful picks into situations where the ball couldnt even be completed. The coach calls the plays, the QB ultimately decides what the read is and where to throw the ball. Garrett isnt forcing Romo to do stupid things. I dont even think Romo looked anywhere other than right at where he threw those 3 passes. There probably were other guys open elsewhere, and at the very least he should have discerned that throwing the ball away was better than what he chose to do.

Now what I will blame Garrett and Jones for is if they keep seeing junk like this, but still decide to stick with Romo no matter what. There does have to come a time when enough is enough with the bad decisions.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

If anything Romo needs to stop throwing it 50 times a game. He's prone to more mistakes the more times he's throwing.

It still doesn't negate the fact he needs to make better decisions though. They were 3 costly mistakes. Shame on him.

And yeah, I agree we need to run the ball more so we can manage the game clock better.

When Romo threw those first of two INTs, he hadn't thrown 50 passes yet. In fact, I think they both were his 29th and 30th pass thrown.

What we need is to be methodical and just move the chains and get first downs, whether it's by running or passing.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

All Romo, because he is the one who threw 3 awful picks into situations where the ball couldnt even be completed. The coach calls the plays, the QB ultimately decides what the read is and where to throw the ball. Garrett isnt forcing Romo to do stupid things. I dont even think Romo looked anywhere other than right at where he threw those 3 passes. There probably were other guys open elsewhere, and at the very least he should have discerned that throwing the ball away was better than what he chose to do.

Now what I will blame Garrett and Jones for is if they keep seeing junk like this, but still decide to stick with Romo no matter what. There does have to come a time when enough is enough with the bad decisions.

I've said this exact same thing. What people are also ignoring is that while Garrett calls the plays, Romo audibles alot. And if Romo audibled, which I believe he did, then in terms of playcalling, he's even more at fault.

In addition to what people are also ignoring is the 3 and outs. We could have even possibly overcame the 3 INTs, were it not for the 3 and outs. That is also the area Romo hurt us.

And dbair, you mentioned how the defense folded in the 4th, well I'm partial to defense. And it can get frustrating and demoralizing when you watch your QB throw 3 INTs, and then have so many 3 and outs, that as a defense you can't even catch your breath and you are already back out on the field. So what you saw in the 4th quarter was the combination of being demoralized/frustrated and fatigued.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Okay.

Me=Freddie
You=Cowboyjoe

You're right. Now I'm going to grab a medical book and read up on Mid-life Alzeihmer's Disease.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How exactly was the gameplan shitty doofus? They were trampling the other team and offense was as dominant as its been in quite some time.

For argument sake, say it was. We still win handily if Tony Romo doesn't turn into Tony Ramiro. I'm AGREEING with you.

 

[dbair1967]

For argument sake, say it was. We still win handily if Tony Romo doesn't turn into Tony Ramiro. I'm AGREEING with you.

Got it.

 

[Cr122]

We got some tough games coming up after the bye. At New England, St. Louis at home then a Sunday Night game against the Eagles in Philly.

Then Seattle, Buffalo at home then we travel to Washington before our Thanksgiving game with the Dolphins.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Again, first down passing is historically the safest down to throw.

And we didnt give up on the run, like you and a couple otehrs suggested. Not sure why you continue to act like we did when the facts show we clearly didnt.

We were up, and up big, for the good majority of the game.. and our QB had 50 pass attempts, more pass attempts than the QB who's team was down big the majority of the game.

Enough said.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

And my griping with Romo has to do with basic decision making. Him throwing less does nothing to negate his poor decision making.

It gives you less of a chance of giving up a turnover. That's called basic math.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

We got some tough games coming up after the bye. At New England, St. Louis at home then a Sunday Night game against the Eagles in Philly.

Then Seattle, Buffalo at home then we travel to Washington before our Thanksgiving game with the Dolphins.

Yeah, but we are getting Austin, Scandrick, and Hatcher back. But none of it will make a difference if Romo continues with his bullshit.

 

[Cr122]

Yeah, but we are getting Austin, Scandrick, and Hatcher back. But none of it will make a difference if Romo continues with his bullshit.

Right. He always seems to come back from a bad game though. We'll see. I'm still pissed off at the way he played in the second half of the Lions game. He's going to need his best stuff against New England.

Just think if the Pats lose to the Jets and are coming off a loss. It's going to be tough to beat Brady and Welker, Gronkowski and Hernandez. There's going to be some good matchups in that game, but Brady can spread out that offense with the weapons he has.

 

[dbair1967]

We were up, and up big, for the good majority of the game.. and our QB had 50 pass attempts, more pass attempts than the QB who's team was down big the majority of the game.

Enough said.

Because we ran way more plays that they did SBK. We ran 15 more total plays than them, and had the ball almost 14 minutes longer.

Again this is simple math skills here. We had 40 throws and 27 runs up to the final drive of the game. Had Romo not blown the game with stupid picks, we wouldnt have had to call passes on the last 8 plays of the game. The 2nd half play calling was 11 runs and 12 passes until the last series.

 

[dbair1967]

It gives you less of a chance of giving up a turnover. That's called basic math.

His problem is decision making. He can make bad decisions just as easily on throw 1 and his does on throw 30. His odds of throwing into impossible coverages to beat doesnt change.