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[sbk92]

Being a deep threat is certainly not a negative. No one has tried to say it is. No one has tried to dismiss him as having no talent either. But when you talk about complete WR's and the best ones in the division.. he is not the best.

As i've already stated and shown, he was not even as consistent nor did he make as many plays as his counterpart last season.

That's bullshat. The coverage Jackson sees as opposed to Maclin is radically different. Nobody is focusing their attention on shutting down Jeremy Maclin. They're trying to contain Jackson. And he still catches 50 balls for 1,000 yards and 8 Tds in 14 full games.

That doesn't mention his return and rushing TDs.

Lead dog.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

That's bullshat. The coverage Jackson sees as opposed to Maclin is radically different. Nobody is focusing their attention on shutting down Jeremy Maclin. They're trying to contain Jackson. And he still catches 50 balls for 1,000 yards and 8 Tds in 14 full games.

That doesn't mention his return and rushing TDs.

Lead dog.

6 TD's.

Watch alot of Eagles games? Because if you did.. you'd know that Maclin sees doubles and coverage rolls quite a bit.

 

[sbk92]

6 TD's.

Watch alot of Eagles games? Because if you did.. you'd know that Maclin sees doubles and coverage rolls quite a bit.

lol No he doesn't.

Here, I can do that too.

Jackson gets triple teamed on all plays. When he's not quadruple teamed.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

lol No he doesn't.

So teams are just single covering Maclin all day huh?

How many Eagles games did you watch last year.. just curious.

 

[sbk92]

So teams are just single covering Maclin all day huh?

How many Eagles games did you watch last year.. just curious.

I watch parts of every game. Most of the majority of their games. The only time I catch a little is if they play the same time as the Cowboys.

Maclin gets a double team. Sometimes. What decent WR doesn't? But the attention is on Jackson. That's where the safety help is. If it isn't, you might as well line up for the extra point. You can't run with the guy.

To put it simply, while Maclin is good and up and coming, it'd be easier to replace his quality in the draft or free agency than it would Jackson's. He's a freak. One of a handful of freaks in the league.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't buy that you watch the games bud..

Bottom line.. Maclin faces doubles and rolled coverage more than just a few times a game. Vick also looked his way more toward the end of last season, even on deep balls. There was a mini crying spat over it by D Jag even.

He's a nice deep threat. Valuable to the team.. but he's nothing near a complete WR.

He didn't produce as much as Maclin, he didn't make as many plays as Maclin, he wasn't as consistent as Maclin. He's simply not as good of an all around receiver as Maclin.

That's all..

 

[sbk92]

I don't buy that you watch the games bud..

I don't give a shat what you buy. I've been in Eagles country my whole life. I'm an Eagles hater as much as I'm a Cowboys fan. I watch more Eagles games than any other team with the lone exception of the Cowboys.

Bottom line.. Maclin faces doubles and rolled coverage more than just a few times a game. Vick also looked his way more toward the end of last season, even on deep balls. There was a mini crying spat over it by D Jag even.

Here we go with your retarded bottom line again.

Have fun with that fantasy, idiot. I'll be over here in reality where DeSean Jackson is the alpha male of that WR core and demands constant attention from the safeties.

You face Philly. You scheme to stop Jackson.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I don't give a shat what you buy. I've been in Eagles country my whole life. I'm an Eagles hater as much as I'm a Cowboys fan. I watch more Eagles games than any other team with the lone exception of the Cowboys.



Here we go with your retarded bottom line again.

Have fun with that fantasy, idiot. I'll be over here in reality where DeSean Jackson is the alpha male of that WR core and demands constant attention from the safeties.

You face Philly. You scheme to stop Jackson.

Yawnnn.. yea yea.

Again, Maclin faces doubles and rolled coverage more than a few times a game. Yet he still produces consistently, something Jag doesn't do.

The "great" "alpha male" D Jag?

Yea, the alpha male who said "I shouldn't have to run routes over the middle of the field because im too fragile and too special.. my agent agrees with me."

lol

 

[sbk92]

You can say it over and over again. It won't make it more factual. Maclin is the #2 receiver in that offense. This is an idiotic debate. Nobody believes he's the Eagles' lead receiver.

 

[sbk92]

Back to the topic though. DeSean Jackson. Best WR in the NFC East.

Not maybe. Not might be. Definitely.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think sbk just needs to hurry up and suck DJack's dick already.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

You can say it over and over again. It won't make it more factual. Maclin is the #2 receiver in that offense. This is an idiotic debate. Nobody believes he's the Eagles' lead receiver.

I really don't get caught up with who's where on the depth chart. Maclin was the most productive and consistent WR on that team last year. And D Jag did say to the coaches that he felt he shouldn't have to return punts or run routes over the middle because he was "special". Those are both facts. All the bullshit you spew can't be backed up by any stat or fact, so please hop on off twat.

You're a clown.. nothing you say holds any weight with me or anyone else here. So troll on..

 

[sbk92]

I really don't get caught up with who's where on the depth chart.

Well you kind of have to ignore that when spewing idiotic shat like Maclin is their best receiver. Can't look at the depth chart and let their own coaches tell you the answer.

I do get caught up in it.

And Jackson's the 1. For a reason. He's the best. Not only on the Eagles but in the entire division.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Does he swallow?

I don't think that Jackson would even have to hold sbk's head down, if anything he would have his arms wrapped tightly around Jackson's waist.

 

[Plymkr]

/End

 

[dbair1967]

best post ever by Bob

lol

 

[Bob Sacamano]

best post ever by Bob

lol

Do you still have that PM I sent you? Show Sheik

 

[Midswat]

Too many drops for DeSean?

DeSean Jackson led the Eagles in receiving yards (1,056) and yards per catch in 2010 (22.5).

But did he have too many drops?

The crew over at Pro Football Focus says yes. Rather than measuring total drops, they use a simple metric called drop percentage that measures drops per catchable balls. A catchable ball is the total number of drops plus receptions.

According to PFF, Jackson had 12 drops out of 61 catchable balls (including the playoffs) for a drop percentage of 19.67, which ranked dead last among receivers who had at least 50 catchable balls.

However, my numbers differ. I charted drops all season and had Jackson down for 7, which would give him a drop percentage of 12.5.

Drops are a subjective stat. Two people watching the same play might have different opinions on what constitutes a drop and what does not. It looks like there were five balls throughout the course of last season that I did not consider drops, but PFF did.

Maybe I'm just the blogger equivalent of an easy grader?

For what it's worth, STATS.com keeps track of drops during the regular season too, and Jackson did not make their list of players with at least seven drops either.

There is value in the simple drop percentage metric though, so here's how the Eagles' top three wide receivers and Brent Celek stacked up last year (playoff game included):

Catches Drops Drop Percentage
Brent Celek 44 7 13.73%
DeSean Jackson 49 7 12.50%
Jeremy Maclin 73 6 7.59%
Jason Avant 58 4 6.45%

As you can see, Avant had the best hands last year, which comes as no surprise. It's been that way for a few years now.

Celek had the highest drop percentage among this group and had seven total (the PFF analysis only counted wide receivers).

And while Maclin had just one fewer drop than Jackson and Celek, he also had many more receptions, so his drop percentage was much better.

One thing to keep in mind is that this metric only measures hands. There are obviously many more factors to consider when evaluating receivers, such as speed and playmaking ability. Jackson led the league, averaging 22.5 yards per catch and was tied for third with 21 receptions that gained 20 yards or more.

In other words, I don't see the drops as being as big of an issue as some others might.

Perhaps you disagree?

 

[dbair1967]

Cue up Jackson excuse makers in 3...2...1...