JJT - Miles Austin paid like elite receiver, but not playing like one

[sbk92]

You are the one grinding the axe here. You keep beating a dead horse but the fact is no matter what Jerry did with the money it would've been a bad move to you. Jerry may suck at picking talent but he knows money better than you do.

lol Jerry knows how to spend money on this team, fellas. He's practically flawless at it.

Negative.

If he had waited to make the move until he had to make it, I would have supported it.

But despite the ramblings of homers in here, you never, ever, ever, ever pay a guy off of one year of production when you can still retain the player another year.

I'm not asking you. I'm telling you.

Now tell me again how I shouldn't worry about money since it's not mine. I can't get enough of that 4th grade mentality.

 

[sbk92]

No doubt that Dez Bryant is a great talent, but we're not comparing the two. You just don't understand how the NFL and contracts work.

lol

Yeah, I don't understand how the contracts work.

But your dumbass, who supports paying a player top elite money for one year of production when the player can't go anywhere yet, has it all figured out.

I'd forearm smash you out of my front office.

 

[dbair1967]

QBs don't throw to guys who aren't open.

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I dont think Austin has been as good as last yr, but Kitna did miss him on some fairly easy plays. 2 or 3 should have been easy tds.

Austin's dropped too many passes, but getting open really hasnt been an issue if you actually watch the games.

 

[sbk92]

And who do the freaking Lions have outside of Johnson? Do they have a Bryant? Do they have a Williams? Do they have a Witten? Because if they did and the ball was spread around more, then Johnson wouldn't be putting up those numbers. Duh!

Actually, that's even more reason to praise Johnson. He's the focal point of the defense week in and week out and still puts up big numbers.

 

[Cythim]

QBs don't throw to guys who aren't open.

Hey, Sam Hurd doesn't get any targets. Quit holding the man down.

lol I can't believe you are trying to compare Hurd to Austin. QBs typically develop relationships with certain receivers and tend to throw to them more often, Kitna has that sort of relationship with Bryant.

 

[Cythim]

Actually, that's even more reason to praise Johnson. He's the focal point of the defense week in and week out and still puts up big numbers.

Why are we comparing Austin and Johnson? There is no comparing the players or the money.

 

[Cythim]

lol Jerry knows how to spend money on this team, fellas. He's practically flawless at it.

Negative.

If he had waited to make the move until he had to make it, I would have supported it.

But despite the ramblings of homers in here, you never, ever, ever, ever pay a guy off of one year of production when you can still retain the player another year.

I'm not asking you. I'm telling you.

Now tell me again how I shouldn't worry about money since it's not mine. I can't get enough of that 4th grade mentality.

Come on back here when you are the owner of the most expensive sports franchise in the world.

 

[sbk92]

Come on back here when you are the owner of the most expensive sports franchise in the world.

lol

Pathetic.

 

[sbk92]

lol I can't believe you are trying to compare Hurd to Austin. QBs typically develop relationships with certain receivers and tend to throw to them more often, Kitna has that sort of relationship with Bryant.

Yes, Kitna developed that relationship with Bryant.

Ya know, on account of him having such extensive experience with Dez rather than Miles.

Wait.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol

Yeah, I don't understand how the contracts work.
But your dumbass, who supports paying a player top elite money for one year of production when the player can't go anywhere yet, has it all figured out.

I'd forearm smash you out of my front office.

That's right, you thought teams only give out contracts to UFAs in the offseason, and 10 year vets. What a maroon.

It's obvious as hell that you don't understand how and why contracts are given out.

 

[Cythim]

Yes, Kitna developed that relationship with Bryant.

Ya know, on account of him having such extensive experience with Dez rather than Miles.

Wait.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...bryant-quite-a-connection-for-cowboys/?page=2

Straight from the QBs mouth.

 

[Cythim]

lol

Pathetic.

You cannot refute it so you attack it instead. Pathetic.

lol

 

[sbk92]

That's right, you thought teams only give out contracts to UFAs in the offseason, and 10 year vets. What a maroon.

It's obvious as hell that you don't understand how and why contracts are given out.

No. I know good teams don't give out mega deals to one year wonder WR's when they are restricted and the team has an option for another year before they have to make that commitment.

It was a bad decision by a bad GM.

 

[sbk92]

You cannot refute it so you attack it instead. Pathetic.

lol

Refute what? A childish comment like that?

I don't want to hear anyone ever criticize a team for any spending then. It's not your money. Talk to me when you own a team.

It's moronic and doesn't deserve a response other than laughter.

 

[sbk92]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...bryant-quite-a-connection-for-cowboys/?page=2

Straight from the QBs mouth.

Tell me what that article means to you. Because to me, it means absolutely nothing to what I'm saying.

You seem to have a habit of providing links to things that have no bearing to the discussion at hand.

Let me spell it out for you, moron.

Kitna does not have more experience with Bryant than he does Austin.

If Kitna has a better connection with Bryant than he does Austin, that can only mean what I said was the case. Bryant's a true 1 who can lift a QB's play. Austin is a fake one and more a product of Tony Romo.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No. I know good teams don't give out mega deals to one year wonder WR's when they are restricted and the team has an option for another year before they have to make that commitment.

It was a bad decision by a bad GM.

It was actually a well thought out decision that took a lot of foresight. The contract wasn't geared to just Austin's play in 2010.

Again, it goes back to weighing the pros versus the cons. I already listed the pros of Miles Austin, all you came up with as a con was the mythical multiple years proving one's worth. You could point to his penchant to drop passes as another con, yet TO annually ranked among the league leaders in drops, and he still was one of the best WRs in the league. And still the pros outweigh the cons by a significant amount. BTW how many years does a player have to produce to deserve a big contract? 2? 3? 4? You can't keep giving the guy 1 year deals, in fact, this year before the extension was going to be the 2nd time that Miles was playing on a 1-year contract. There's also a back and forth process between the team and the agent and the player. You can't just lowball a player with a small multi-year contract in order for him to prove his long-term worth and expect him to take it. You either give him an extension or you don't.

 

[Cythim]

Tell me what that article means to you. Because to me, it means absolutely nothing to what I'm saying.

You seem to have a habit of providing links to things that have no bearing to the discussion at hand.

Let me spell it out for you, moron.

Kitna does not have more experience with Bryant than he does Austin.

If Kitna has a better connection with Bryant than he does Austin, that can only mean what I said was the case. Bryant's a true 1 who can lift a QB's play. Austin is a fake one and more a product of Tony Romo.

Why do you have so much trouble understanding this? Kitna was working with Bryant while Romo was working with the starters. This type of relationship occurs all the time when backups enter the game together.

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedconte...s/stories/111810dnspotaylorqod.23c08c9bc.html

 

[sbk92]

It was actually a well thought out decision that took a lot of foresight. The contract wasn't geared to just Austin's play in 2010.

Again, it goes back to weighing the pros versus the cons. I already listed the pros of Miles Austin, all you came up with as a con was the mythical multiple years proving one's worth. You could point to his penchant to drop passes as another con, yet TO annually ranked among the league leaders in drops, and he still was one of the best WRs in the league. And still the pros outweigh the cons by a significant amount. BTW how many years does a player have to produce to deserve a big contract? 2? 3? 4? You can't keep giving the guy 1 year deals, in fact, this year before the extension was going to be the 2nd time that Miles was playing on a 1-year contract. There's also a back and forth process between the team and the agent and the player. You can't just lowball a player with a small multi-year contract in order for him to prove his long-term worth and expect him to take it. You either give him an extension or you don't.

You can't give me a single pro for signing a guy to top money off of one year rather than making him back it up the final year before he's a free agent.

There is no pro to that. The only positive would be to save money. We didn't do that. We paid him like he's one of the best WRs in the game and all he did up to that point was have one year where he wasn't hanging on the bottom of our roster.

It's just not smart to do that. It will lead to a lot of bad contracts.

 

[sbk92]

Why do you have so much trouble understanding this? Kitna was working with Bryant while Romo was working with the starters. This type of relationship occurs all the time when backups enter the game together.

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedconte...s/stories/111810dnspotaylorqod.23c08c9bc.html

Because it's bullshat.

You're gonna tell me Jon Kitna has gotten that many more reps with Bryant in his one injury riddled rookie year where he missed about all of camp than he has two years with Miles Austin?

I don't buy it for a second. That's a homer excuse. Can't admit your player isn't good enough. Look for other reasons to make yourself feel better about the failure.

Dez's production didn't shrink by half because he's a legitimate #1 talent. Austin isn't.

 

[Cythim]

Because it's bullshat.

You're gonna tell me Jon Kitna has gotten that many more reps with Bryant in his one injury riddled rookie year where he missed about all of camp than he has two years with Miles Austin?

I don't buy it for a second. That's a homer excuse. Can't admit your player isn't good enough. Look for other reasons to make yourself feel better about the failure.

Dez's production didn't shrink by half because he's a legitimate #1 talent. Austin isn't.

You want to point fingers and talk about childish behivior. Nothing here has been more childish than they way you blantantly ignore facts in order to maintain your silly little facade of always being right. No one here believes it but you yet you continue to cry it on like it is some internet badge of honor.