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The Laws of your God do not govern what I do. He can go fuck himself.

Nature - a round peg fits in a round hole.

If you're Christian then it's the same God and he saw what you typed. Everything you say (and I'm presuming type) will be rehashed once you make it to the entrance. I hope you have a good explanation for what you just said otherwise you aren't getting in.
 

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It must be pretty gay over there.

It is. A regular over there will type something and there will be five people responding with "I agree!" and "Spot on analysis!"

It fucking sucks.
 

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If you're Christian then it's the same God and he saw what you typed. Everything you say (and I'm presuming type) will be rehashed once you make it to the entrance. I hope you have a good explanation for what you just said otherwise you aren't getting in.

Christian or not I don't share the same God with Laz. His God is a bigot, mine is not.
 

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That doesn't make sense. If they are in the 1600's, how would they know that they are barren except until AFTER they were married? Because if the woman became pregnant before marriage, more than likely she would have been exiled or killed, so you are not making any sense.

Then you just didn't understand.

Your rationale for homosexuality not being "natural" and therefore not to be allowed in a marriage setting was simply that it cannot result in procreation.

Neither can hetero relationships wherein one party is barren, has swimmers that don't swim, or hell marriage between old people.

People get married for all sorts of reasons, procreation has very little to do with it. Nor does inability to procreate make that loving bond "unnatural".
 

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Christian or not I don't share the same God with Laz. His God is a bigot, mine is not.

I don't buy the God being all around us watching us closely, protecting us bullshit. If he did, atrocities all over the world wouldn't happen. Why should I waste my time praying to some thing when there are people all over the world who have it 1,000,000 X worse than I do. If he or she lets them suffer then he or she will let me do the same and not give one shit.
 

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Christian or not I don't share the same God with Laz. His God is a bigot, mine is not.

QFT. If your God claims to have created everything on earth, yet at the same time hates certain segments of his creation, he's a pretty pathetic excuse for a God.
 

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QFT. If your God claims to have created everything on earth, yet at the same time hates certain segments of his creation, he's a pretty pathetic excuse for a God.

We won't know until we get there. That's why I don't waste over an hour of my Sunday at church. How does this guy know more than me about God?
 

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We won't know until we get there. That's why I don't waste over an hour of my Sunday at church. How does this guy know me than me about God?

Robes, seminary school, special collars. Years misspent studying the work of fiction known as the bible.
 

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God granted individuals free will.

Sure did, so he plants a tree that he knows humans will eat fruit from. Then there's a huge mess and he has to send his son that he somehow has to fix things. Just a bunch of bullshit someone made up.
 
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Thanks joe.

Meh. I'm just not interested or engaged enough to bother debating religion or politics. Those, genuinely speaking, are two deep rooted philosophical beliefs individuals hold dearly. And quite frankly, I've never seen, heard, read, or otherwise witnessed one individual changing another individuals perception on a matter, regardless of how intelligent, lengthy, or mature the debate.

My sharing and discussing with you my beliefs on these matters isn't going to shake you to the core of your belief structure, and cause you to reconsider. Just as you sharing and discussing your views with me. Individuals are closed minded on these matters.

Most of my posts in this thread were just goofing off. I'm shocked half of them generated responses.
 

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And quite frankly, I've never seen, heard, read, or otherwise witnessed one individual changing another individuals perception on a matter, regardless of how intelligent, lengthy, or mature the debate.

PS I used to say the same shit about gays, then I woke up and realized I had been brainwashed and was holding these opinions, not because they were mine - but because I had been told to hold them lest it offend the Lord.

It was through discussions such as these (online and off) that I changed my thinking.
 
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PS I used to say the same shit about gays, then I woke up and realized I had been brainwashed and was holding these opinions, not because they were mine - but because I had been told to hold them lest it offend the Lord.

Truth be told. I don't give a shit about anyones sexual preference.

It's the ones who parade around, openly flaunting their homosexuality, and making such a big to do about it that I don't like.

If you're marching down a city street dressed in assless chaps or dressed as a giant penis, then part of me is hoping an out of control semi-truck comes barrelling down said city street and takes you out.
 
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