Georgia to require drug tests for welfare benefits

Iamtdg · Apr 19, 2012

And, by the way, the 2% stat from the Dept of Labor is what they have caught. Not what is truly the case. So, you can take that number and wipe your ass with it because that's about all it's worth.

superpunk · Apr 19, 2012

Iamtdg said:
And, by the way, the 2% stat from the Dept of Labor is what they have caught. Not what is truly the case. So, you can take that number and wipe your ass with it because that's about all it's worth.

because common sense tells me the number is closer to a billion percent.

Iamtdg · Apr 19, 2012

superpunk said:
because common sense tells me the number is closer to a billion percent.

A billion might be pushing just a tad.

Not much, but a little.

Cythim · Apr 19, 2012

Iamtdg said:
Some of us suffer from this horrible ailment called common sense.

I use that as exhibit A.

You have any proof that the 98% are deserving of aid?

Stupid question, but figured I would return the favor.

NoDak said:
lol Yeah. It's called common sense and my own eyes.

Play your games with somebody else. Not interested.

The system in place has rules that define who is "deserving" and who is not. If you think people who are getting aid through the current system do not deserve it the burden is on you to show a need to change it. The use of "common sense" and "my own eyes" are not sufficient enough to change the laws, we need studies to show a need to make these changes and I haven't seen any.

Iamtdg · Apr 19, 2012

Cythim said:
The system in place has rules that define who is "deserving" and who is not. If you think people who are getting aid through the current system do not deserve it the burden is on you to show a need to change it. The use of "common sense" and "my own eyes" are not sufficient enough to change the laws, we need studies to show a need to make these changes and I haven't seen any.

Yeah, I'll jump right on that.

NoDak · Apr 19, 2012

Iamtdg said:
Yeah, I'll jump right on that.

lol

You're what's wrong with this country. You have a job to do here. DO IT!!

Cythim · Apr 19, 2012

Iamtdg said:
Yeah, I'll jump right on that.

Owned by "common sense" lol

Cythim · Apr 19, 2012

NoDak said:
lol

You're what's wrong with this country. You have a job to do here. DO IT!!

This is what congress is for, but they are busy talking to baseball players and college ADs.

Iamtdg · Apr 19, 2012

Cythim said:
Owned by "common sense" lol

jiggyfly · Apr 19, 2012

NoDak said:
lol Yeah. It's called common sense and my own eyes.

Play your games with somebody else. Not interested.

Your own eyes? how many people are you seeing on welfare on a daily basis and how are your own eyes spotting all of this abuse?

Sheik · Apr 19, 2012

superpunk said:
Common sense tells me that there is no fucking way that aircraft carriers can float. The crazy thing is, they do. I can't explain it.

lol lol lol

Bob Sacamano · Apr 19, 2012

superpunk said:
Common sense - the same thing that determined the sun traveled around the earth and we were placed here 6,000 years ago by a wizard.

People on welfare are receiving aid, and have been through the application process to do so. Therefore the default assumption is that they deserve it. If common sense has any empirical evidence to show this is not true (and in what quantity it is not true) then common sense is welcome to present it.

OK, we get it. You're playing Devil's Advocate here.

Bob Sacamano · Apr 19, 2012

For those saying that rarely anyone abuses welfare and/or that just because someone is accepted for government subsidies that they are worthy of it, should just go and check out the No Child Left Behind tutoring scam.

It's ridiculous to believe that the welfare application is foolproof.

jiggyfly · Apr 19, 2012

Bob Sacamano said:
For those saying that rarely anyone abuses welfare and/or that just because someone is accepted for government subsidies that they are worthy of it, should just go and check out the No Child Left Behind tutoring scam.

It's ridiculous to believe that the welfare application is foolproof.

Nobody said welfare is hardly abused, there are real issues and IMO this testing does nothing to address them and just adds more waste.

Take a look at who benefits from this additional testing and who are driving these new laws.

Iamtdg · Apr 19, 2012

Bigboi said:
Nobody said welfare is hardly abused, there are real issues IMO this testing does nothing to address them and just adds more waste.

Take a look at who benefits from this additional testing and who are driving these new laws.

If the system gains nothing from the testing, who does benefit from this?

Bob Sacamano · Apr 19, 2012

I also found out a bit googling the Internet that it depends on the laws of the state if people on welfare are even required to attempt to find work. Single parents with 2 or more kids can stay on it indefinitely if they like.

superpunk · Apr 19, 2012

Iamtdg said:
If the system gains nothing from the testing, who does benefit from this?

The Governor of Florida's medical company, who got the contract to do the testing.

Iamtdg · Apr 19, 2012

superpunk said:
The Governor of Florida's medical company, who got the contract to do the testing.

lol

Cool conspiracy theory, brah.

Bob Sacamano · Apr 19, 2012

And I guess next, you guys are going to tell me that people not reporting on their income isn't a problem because there are no stats compiled on that.

Bob Sacamano · Apr 19, 2012

Bigboi said:
Nobody said welfare is hardly abused, there are real issues and IMO this testing does nothing to address them and just adds more waste.

Take a look at who benefits from this additional testing and who are driving these new laws.

Then why are you arguing with those who say it's a problem?

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