Dumb POS mods on the Zone deleting all negative posts related to Brent

[Doomsday]

This is what I am talking about when I talk of poor critical thinking skills.

And so we see there's another term you don't know the definition of.

 

[Doomsday]

You only just learned from this thread that Brent retired. It's good to see you're learning something here.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It was not a request from the league. It was totally voluntary. That's the basis for the idiot appeal, "we didn't make them cut me so i shouldn't have to be suspended or monitored."

No its not the basis is the precedents of Little and Stallworth as opposed to the time Brent has missed. Go read his agents statement.

As an aside, the precedent is set that players in the future should not retire to head off issues with the league and instead force the leagues hand. You are right his retirement was voluntary.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You only just learned from this thread that Brent retired. It's good to see you're learning something here.

Apparently his status now is conditionally reinstated and suspended.

Josh Brent Conditionally Reinstated With Dallas Cowboys « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

So technically he is on the suspension list. There is of course the caveats but its how he is able to return to VR.

 

[Doomsday]

No its not the basis is the precedents of Little and Stallworth as opposed to the time Brent has missed. Go read his agents statement.

The agent is QUOTED saying the penalty should be less due to his retiring instead of waiting to be cut. He is ON RECORD.

Schaffer pointed to the fact that Brent voluntarily retired.

"He could have forced the NFL to go through a tremendous amount of scrutiny for allowing him to play pending trial or for attempting to suspend him before he had been proven guilty," Schaffer told the website. "Where's the incentive for someone to do that in the future?"

 

[Doomsday]

Apparently his status now is conditionally reinstated and suspended.

That is PRIOR to the appeal. He is NOT on the roster.

He IS able to work out at VR but not with the team and not in organized activities.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And so we see there's another term you don't know the definition of.

Do you really think that anyone is going to find this line of argument compelling. Sure you can get mid or the Rams fan to pat you on the back but you really have no conception of how to make a convincing argument to someone that is unsure. It's bluster and that is about it.

Flail around some more though.

 

[Doomsday]

And of course the point was made earlier, all of this is moot. Jerruh is gonna do what Jerruh wanna do.

You have alot of people who don't want this piece of crap wearing the star.

You have alot of people who don't care either way.

You have a shrill minority of people who will eschew all reason and logic, to defend the fat fuck.

All are fair opinions to have.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That is PRIOR to the appeal. He is NOT on the roster.

He IS able to work out at VR but not with the team and not in organized activities.

Well yeah of course it happened before. So what?

You didn't read the link did you? Lazy and dumb then.

This is what I am talking about in terms of critical thinking skills. You have identified temporal order. Bravo.

 

[Doomsday]

Do you really think that anyone is going to find this line of argument compelling. Sure you can get mid or the Rams fan to pat you on the back but you really have no conception of how to make a convincing argument to someone that is unsure. It's bluster and that is about it.

Flail around some more though.

You can keep repeating that shit but that doesn't make it so, Goebbels. You got pwned and stomped, and you won't just admit it. There's alot of Hostile in you, in that regard!

#fuzzyhostile

 

[Doomsday]

You didn't read the link did you? Lazy and dumb then.

Yeah stupid, it's dated Sept 2, which is before the appeal made most of that moot. He can't re-sign or get reactivated until he and the league come to a agreement.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And of course the point was made earlier, all of this is moot. Jerruh is gonna do what Jerruh wanna do.

You have alot of people who don't want this piece of crap wearing the star.

You have alot of people who don't care either way.

You have a shrill minority of people who will eschew all reason and logic, to defend the fat fuck.

All are fair opinions to have.

Shrill minority? You sure like speaking for those not yourself.

See what I mean about the clique nonsense, sheik?

 

[Doomsday]

Shrill minority? You sure like speaking for those not yourself.

All you gotta do is read the thread s0n.

See what I mean about the clique nonsense, sheik?

"People don't agree with me therefore it is a clique."

#fuzzyhostile

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yeah stupid, it's dated Sept 2, which is before the appeal made most of that moot. He can't re-sign or get reactivated until he and the league come to a agreement.

The appeal did not make anything moot. Provide one shred of evidence of this.

 

[Doomsday]

The appeal did not make anything moot. Provide one shred of evidence of this.

He cannot get activated until he signs a agreement with the NFL on his reinstatement.

IF he does, THOSE conditions must be met, and not necessarily the ones listed in the article. Those are the subject of the appeal.

They are therefore moot, until he exhausts his appeals or he gets a "better" deal from the league.

Right now all he can do is work out on his own at the ranch.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

All you gotta do is read the thread s0n.
"People don't agree with me therefore it is a clique."

#fuzzyhostile

You really think anyone is compelled by this? Calling me hostile doesn't bother me like you want it to.

Just so you know, when you start with the CZ, hostile smack, it says to me "I got nothing."

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He cannot get activated until he signs a agreement with the NFL on his reinstatement.

IF he does, THOSE conditions must be met, and not necessarily the ones listed in the article. Those are the subject of the appeal.

They are therefore moot, until he exhausts his appeals or he gets a "better" deal from the league.

Right now all he can do is work out on his own at the ranch.

I asked for proof. Repeating yourself and giving your interpretation of how it happened is not proof.

So to this point you have nothing. Bravo, Judy.

 

[Doomsday]

You really think anyone is compelled by this? Calling me hostile doesn't bother me like you want it to.

Just so you know, when you start with the CZ, hostile smack, it says to me "I got nothing."

I don't care if it bothers you or not, it's not done for your benefit.

You post only in this thread, essentially defending CZ. You read the actual Brent thread, but didn't post there. That tells me you're merely defending the CZ mods who wouldn't let people openly discuss Brent.

 

[Doomsday]

I asked for proof.

Go find it then. This is how suspensions work. Under appeal, nothing can happen and if he still gets his 10 week suspension, the time starts when he signs the agreement, not a month ago.

Most folks know that.

Those conditions are moot until they are upheld on appeal.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The agent is QUOTED saying the penalty should be less due to his retiring instead of waiting to be cut. He is ON RECORD.

You gave a link of him commenting on the retirement. What you do not see is that sentence indicating it was the basis of the appeal. Again critical thinking and reading skills: where in the quoted portion that states that is the basis of the appeal?

Now compare and contrast to the quote you missed on your first read-through indicating poor reading skills:

“The Commissioner’s order was just not fair. We just don’t think based on precedent that it’s applicable,” said Schaffer. “We’re going to appeal it based on Josh’s collective bargaining rights and move forward.”

Schaffer compares his client’s situation to that of former NFL receiver Donte Stallworth, who killed a pedestrian and was convicted of DUI manslaughter in 2009.

“Donte received a year suspension. That’s a very applicable, similar fact pattern, and that’s what you hope for. If something happened the same way eight times, it should happen that way a 9th time.”

I went ahead and bolded/underlined the key phrase here since you have trouble reading.