Bill Bates

[Doomsday]

And look at how many on that list are in the ROH.

Let me help you with that... 1.

And in the case of Woody and Cliff Harris, major oversight as well.

 

[Iamtdg]

You could at least spell them all right.

Would you be like, all upset and stuff if Bates was named to the RoH?

Oh, I left out an L. Great catch.

And, yes, it would bother me if they put him in the ROH.

 

[Doomsday]

And, yes, it would bother me if they put him in the ROH.

Because in your view he made no outstanding contribution to the Dallas Cowboys?

 

[Iamtdg]

And in the case of Woody and Cliff Harris, major oversight as well.

I can't believe you would even say Woody and Cliff while discussing Bates. They were 10 times the safety he was.

 

[bbgun]

Bates wasn't nearly as good as Ken Hamlin as a safety. He wasn't nearly as good as Randy Hughes, though I don't really remember him.

That's how great he was.

theogt's beeper just went off

 

[Doomsday]

I can't believe you would even say Woody and Cliff while discussing Bates. They were 10 times the safety he was.

Can you not read for context? Woody and Cliff should be in the RoH and really, this conversation proves how flawed it is, if nothing else.

 

[Iamtdg]

Because in your view he made no outstanding contribution to the Dallas Cowboys?

He hit people a lot. He tried hard. He was a good cheerleader. Enough to get him into the most elite ring on the most (at one point) elite franchise in NFL history? No.

 

[NoDak]

We are talking about RoH credentials here and Bates is IN the top ten for Dallas Cowboys safeties.

You've made quite a few ignorant arguments in your short time here, and this one ranks right up near the top. He's in the OMGTOPTENOMG!!!! So what? Should they all be in the ROH? How about the top ten guards? Top ten kickers?

Top ten. BFD. Guess what? On the teams own website, they have Mike Gaechter ranked ahead of Bates at #9 on the all-time safeties list. He played 7 less seasons than Bates, because he had to retire due to a ruptured Achilles. But he had twice as many INTs. You think he should be in the ROH? Hell, have you even ever heard of him?

 

[Doomsday]

He hit people a lot. He tried hard. He was a good cheerleader.

Lovely.

 

[Iamtdg]

Can you not read for context? Woody and Cliff should be in the RoH and really, this conversation proves how flawed it is, if nothing else.

Okay, then argue that it's flawed. Don't be silly and argue that a special teams guy belongs in.

 

[Doomsday]

Top ten. BFD. Guess what? On the teams own website, they have Mike Gaechter ranked ahead of Bates at #9 on the all-time safeties list. He played 7 less seasons than Bates, because he had to retire due to a ruptured Achilles. But he had twice as many INTs. You think he should be in the ROH? Hell, have you even ever heard of him?

He's one of the greatest, but do you know anything about him other than what you just read?

You didn't know Bates was #10 all time until I educated you.

 

[bbgun]

He hit people a lot. He tried hard. He was a good cheerleader. Enough to get him into the most elite ring on the most (at one point) elite franchise in NFL history? No.

If Tony's career ended today, would you put him in?

 

[Iamtdg]

If Tony's career ended today, would you put him in?

Not even close.

 

[Doomsday]

Okay, then argue that it's flawed. Don't be silly and argue that a special teams guy belongs in.

I'll argue anything I want to fucking argue, same as you.

 

[Doomsday]

If Tony's career ended today, would you put him in?

Nope. I cannot think of one Outstanding Contribution, as the charter calls for.

But of course, Jerry would and will.

 

[Iamtdg]

I'll argue anything I want to fucking argue, same as you.

Carry on, then. You are doing a fine job...

... of looking like an idiot.

 

[Doomsday]

Carry on, then. You are doing a fine job...

... of looking like an idiot.

Says the actual idiot.

 

[Iamtdg]

Says the actual idiot.

I doubt I ever recover from this burn.

 

[NoDak]

He's one of the greatest, but do you know anything about him other than what you just read?

You didn't know Bates was #10 all time until I educated you.

Even the Dallas Cowboys on their own official website say Bates is listed more for his special teams play. He only started what, 40 some games at safety?


God damn, Sheik. Where did you find this fucking moron?

 

[Doomsday]

I doubt I ever recover from this burn.

Sure you will. Anyone taking anything posted about their fictitious username on the web needs a checkup from the neck up. I think you're foolish and ignorant, but not nuts.

This is a locker room atmosphere, guys gonna razz and cut up.