Bill Bates

[Doomsday]

you called him a legend

Where? What I said was, they would probably put Romobama in the RoH before Bates, and that would be criminal.

 

[Doomsday]

I seriously doubt that.

Hey Man, it's been quoted everywhere. He said it.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

No, but does it have to be a white comparison? How good was he for his position league-wide?

 

[Doomsday]

How good was he for his position league-wide?

We are talking about RoH credentials here and Bates is IN the top ten for Dallas Cowboys safeties.

 

[bbgun]

Where? What I said was, they would probably put Romobama in the RoH before Bates, and that would be criminal.

so he was "THE embodiment of the Cowboys" but not a legend?

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

No, but does it have to be a white comparison? How good was he for his position league-wide?

It doesn't, but Tasker was a similar special teams demon who didn't have a real position. Actually as I remember Tasker was a decent 4th-5th WR, better than Bates anyway.

Bates sucked as a safety. He just wasn't athletic enough, though he was crazy and reckless enough to be good running down and hitting people. Can't really think of a huge special teams star now... Who would that be?

 

[Doomsday]

so he was "THE embodiment of the Cowboys" but not a legend?

If Bill Bates isn't THE embodiment of the Cowboys, who is? I put him right up there with Bob Lilly as far as off the field character goes. He is a honorable man and always was.

You already said you wouldn't have a problem with Bates in the RoH and I never called him a "Legend" although he has won several Legends awards including the "Tom Landry Legend" award back in 2011.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

It doesn't, but Tasker was a similar special teams demon who didn't have a real position. Actually as I remember Tasker was a decent 4th-5th WR, better than Bates anyway.

Bates sucked as a safety. He just wasn't athletic enough, though he was crazy and reckless enough to be good running down and hitting people. Can't really think of a huge special teams star now... Who would that be?

Idk im waiting for you to tell me!

 

[Doomsday]

Bates sucked as a safety. He just wasn't athletic enough, though he was crazy and reckless enough to be good running down and hitting people.

He had a knack for being in the right place at the right time, exactly when you needed him. If he sucked as a safety, Jimmy wouldn't be playing him as a safety! You know more than Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry?

 

[Iamtdg]

Top 10: Ranking Best Cowboys Safeties In Franchise History - Dallas Cowboys.com

Boy, he barely made the list.

 

[Doomsday]

Boy, he barely made the list.

Well yeah, look at the frikkin names ON that list!

 

[Doomsday]

Jimmy Johnson owes his first playoff win to a timely, game sealing Bill Bates pick.

 

[Iamtdg]

We are talking about RoH credentials here and Bates is IN the top ten for Dallas Cowboys safeties.

You keep saying that, but that doesn't buy him a ticket into the ROH. Tony Hill is is top 5, IMO, and he's not in, and he contributed a helluva lot more than Bates did.

 

[bbgun]

If Bill Bates isn't THE embodiment of the Cowboys, who is? I put him right up there with Bob Lilly as far as off the field character goes. He is a honorable man and always was.

You already said you wouldn't have a problem with Bates in the RoH and I never called him a "Legend" although he has won several Legends awards including the "Tom Landry Legend" award back in 2011.

so you would have disagreed with Hos when he called him the "legendary Bill Bates," right?

 

[Doomsday]

You keep saying that, but that doesn't buy him a ticket into the ROH.

I didn't say it did. His entire FIFTEEN YEAR career in Dallas, does.

 

[Iamtdg]

If Bill Bates isn't THE embodiment of the Cowboys, who is? I put him right up there with Bob Lilly as far as off the field character goes. He is a honorable man and always was.

You already said you wouldn't have a problem with Bates in the RoH and I never called him a "Legend" although he has won several Legends awards including the "Tom Landry Legend" award back in 2011.

Roger Staubach
Randy White
Michael Irvin
Troy Aikman
Emmitt Smith
Bob Lily
Larry Allen
Lee Roy Jordan

I can name the rest of the ROH of you would like.

 

[Doomsday]

so you would have disagreed with Hos when he called him the "legendary Bill Bates," right?

I didn't and wouldn't use that terminology. But I wouldn't pitch a fit about someone using it either.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Bates wasn't nearly as good as Ken Hamlin as a safety. He wasn't nearly as good as Randy Hughes, though I don't really remember him.

That's how great he was.

 

[Iamtdg]

Well yeah, look at the frikkin names ON that list!

And look at how many on that list are in the ROH.

Let me help you with that... 1.

 

[Doomsday]

I can name the rest of the ROH of you would like.

You could at least spell them all right.

Would you be like, all upset and stuff if Bates was named to the RoH?