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So what's more likely dbair?

That he was just an idiot here who couldn't play and can magically now play for Seattle?

or

That Seattle has far better coaching in place?

Come on man.
A big part of coaching is adjusting to fit to your players and their talents/abilities. They knew what they were getting in Michael. They played him just enough to give up the pick. It's only a 7th round pick but part of a much bigger problem in this organization.
Someone gets my point. Thanks!
 

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Well gee whiz there genius, isn't it a mystery how a player might perform better on a BETTER team? Remember the mass exodus of Cowboy players beginning in 1994 when free agency started? Remember how all of them were pretty good to good players here and most of them washed out elsewhere?
The lengths you'll go to try to prop up a completely failed point.

You're telling us that many of the players Jimmy's Cowboys lost to free agency really weren't all that good, they were just riding coattails of the main cast.

Couldn't be that they got the Big Money, and out from under Jimmy's more stern leadership, just slacked off? Nah. LOL
He got cut the same day as DB Corey White, who claimed them not wearing suits on road trips was part of the reason.
Such bullshit. Disciplinarian Jason cuts people for dress code violations, but not for attacking assistant coaches and repeatedly failing drug tests! LOL
Not cutting Michael before the deadline to surrender the pick is definitely fair criticism, although it also somewhat further explains what an idiot he must have been here for us to cut him even after we knew we'd be losing the late pick.
Yeah, must have been just a McClain ~cough cough~ type screwball!

Look, Michael has all the tools to become a very good back in this league. He didn't work out in Dallas why - Most likely due to our lousy coaching. You think we really have ANY players who respect Ginger? Seattle welcomes him back with open arms and magically he is performing NOT YET up to his potential but certainly much better. Fourth year guy, the timing is now if he wants to be anything other than a journeyman.
 

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So what's more likely dbair?

That he was just an idiot here who couldn't play and can magically now play for Seattle?

or

That Seattle has far better coaching in place?

Come on man.

Watch Seattle get something out of George Farmer.
 

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A big part of coaching is adjusting to fit to your players and their talents/abilities. They knew what they were getting in Michael. They played him just enough to give up the pick. It's only a 7th round pick but part of a much bigger problem in this organization.

Dude, they (Seattle) drafted him in the 2nd rd and almost never used him there. They were so fed up with him they gave him away for peanuts.

Joseph freaking Randle has more career rushing yds and a lot more tds in his career than this guy does, and they were in the same draft.

I get that some of you guys like to bash shit all the time, but JFC. Crying over Christine Fucking Michael? Pure stupidty.
 

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I get that some of you guys like to bash shit all the time, but JFC. Crying over Christine Fucking Michael? Pure stupidty.

If every time we are critical of the team we are "crying" does that mean every time you praise them you are blowing them?

You dick sucking bastard.
 
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Crying over Christine Fucking Michael? Pure stupidty.
You're the only one crying. I'm pointing out the dude wasn't good enough for our 8-8 crap of a team, but is back in Seattle which unlike us has won a Super Bowl this century, and he looks pretty sharp so far.

That this observation makes you shit your diaper and throw a big fit really makes Chris's conclusion look most likely.
 

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If every time we are critical of the team we are "crying" does that mean every time you praise hem you are blowing them?

You dick sucking bastard.

Its not every time dickbag, but it is with this.
 

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If Christine Michael is so badass and about to tear this league a new one in Seattle why did they draft 2 more RB's this year?
 

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This has me concerned.

Tyron Smith may not play this preseason.

The Pro Bowl left tackle hasn't played in the first two preseason games due to a stinger. Executive vice president Stephen Jones made it clear after the team's 41-14 victory over Miami that they will err on the side of caution when it comes to Smith in these final two preseason games.

"I think everybody understands he's going to be ready to go against the Giants,'' Jones said of the opener on Sept. 11. "If we feel like he's in the right spot to take a few series then we might look at it.

"But if we don't feel good about it we'll hold him out.''

Jones conceded the Cowboys talked long and hard about whether they wanted to play quarterback Tony Romo Friday night against the Dolphins since Smith wouldn't play. The determination was to play Romo and start Chaz Green at left tackle.

Green struggled in the preseason opener against the Los Angeles Rams but played better against the Dolphins.

"Tony was aware of the situation, and I thought Chaz did a nice job,'' Jones said. "At some point Chaz has to gain trust and there's no better way to do it than running with the first-team.

"I know it's a long year and it's rare that you play with the same five offensive linemen all year. We need to develop him and bring him along.''
 

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If Christine Michael is so badass and about to tear this league a new one in Seattle
Who said anything like this? Is there some fucking disease I've yet to hear about, where people can't understand simple postings so they substitute nonsense for what they've read?
 
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Christine Michael. Yeah, that whole thing was a little curious. Not a big deal, nor a major misstep, but clearly it didn't work out the way Dallas hoped.

To me, if there was a small silver-lining to that deal, it was that at least the Cowboys got rid of Micheal when they determined he wasn't going to work out. There was a day (pre-Parcells) that some roster decisions appeared to be motivated by Jerry's ego (attempts to save face) rather than by players' performance.

If you want to talk about a low cost trade that has a chance to become interesting, how about the trade that brought Brice Butler to Dallas?

Dallas gave up their 5th round pick to Oakland in the Butler deal. The Raiders used that pick to select DeAndre Washington, Red Raiders RB. The Cowboys got Butler and the Raiders 6th round draft choice, which was used to pick Anthony Brown.
 

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To me, if there was a small silver-lining to that deal, it was that at least the Cowboys got rid of Micheal when they determined he wasn't going to work out. There was a day (pre-Parcells) that some roster decisions appeared to be motivated by Jerry's ego (attempts to save face) rather than by players' performance.

It still feels like there's some of that going on. In the case of Michael last year, they could have released him earlier and not lost a draft pick but instead they kept him for like 1 game past the requirement (IIRC) and that caused them to lose the draft pick. What did they learn in a week that caused them to forgo the pick? My guess is nothing but jeri putting the breaks on the coaching staff for fear the player is gonna explode any second or some other nonsensical logic that senile drunk bastard employs.

Similar issue with Hardy, the season was clearly in the shitter, he's causing all kinds of problems and there's an opportunity to send a message to the team and save approx 1mill per game but hell nah, they let him finish out the season, piss cap dollars down the toilet and let the player undermine the head coach in the process.

Why?

There seems to be extreme reluctance on the part of the Cowboys to employ any type of discipline whatsoever on a player and I don't understand why.
 

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Broaddus stuff from DC.com:

Dez Bryant continues to do things with his route-running that is allowing himself to make big plays. His touchdown from Dak Prescott came off a “Stutter-Go,” which was the exact same route he executed against Brandon Carr in the Blue-White Scrimmage a short time ago. On the play, Prescott never took his eyes off Bryant as the route developed. Prescott knew where he was going with the ball the whole way and was able to deliver the ball in the perfect spot. Just like last week, Prescott got a big assist from Alfred Morris, who stepped up and eliminated Kiko Alonso on the blitz to keep the front of the pocket clean.

•Despite missing Tyron Smith in this game, I thought the first offensive line was outstanding --especially running the ball. Alfred Morris’ 15-yard touchdown run was as well-blocked a play as you will see. The line was able to combo block inside on the two tackles, securing them in place. Once secured, Travis Frederick and Zack Martin then released to the second level to capture the linebackers. Morris sticks his nose to the right, but then with vision, he sees that Chaz Green has worked Andre Branch up the field. Morris makes a hard cut to his right as Branch tries to retrace but can’t get there. Morris gets the final block from Dez Bryant on Byron Maxwell, which allows him to walk into the end zone.

•Nobody on this defensive front works harder than Tyrone Crawford to attempt to create pressure. Crawford’s efforts paid off when he was able to defeat Jermon Bushrod one-on-one for a sack. Crawford was able to break Bushrod down right off the snap, which put the guard in an awful blocking position. Once Crawford felt Bushrod’s weight shift to his right foot, Crawford broke hard to the inside and directly at Ryan Tannehill. Seeing the pressure from Tyrone Crawford and feeling that same pressure from Jack Crawford to his right, Tannehill tried to climb the front of the pocket, but he could not escape the strength of Tyrone Crawford -- who had him around the waist and Jack Crawford around the quarterback’s upper body.

•The big play of the night for the Dolphins offense was a 55-yard pass from Ryan Tannehill to Kenny Stills. The formation was a “Bunch” look, with the tight end flexed in the bunch. At the snap, they went full-flow to the left, which caused the defense to have to react to the run. Tannehill wheeled to his right and got a key block by Jordan Cameron on Jack Crawford to get him to the outside. Dallas was in a Cover 2 look with the corners funneling everything to the middle of the field. The route by Stills was run to J.J. Wilcox’s side of the field, rather than Byron Jones’. Stills, in full sprint, was on top of Wilcox in a hurry. Wilcox hopped instead of turning and running to carry Stills -- who got past him easily. If the ball had been thrown to the inside, it would’ve been a touchdown, but it ended up on the outside and carried Stills out of bounds. It actually turned out to be a huge break, because seven plays later the Cowboys were able to hold on downs.

•This was the second game where the Dallas defense was able to create a turnover by putting pressure on the opponent’s quarterback with their rush. Right before the half, Damien Wilson and James Morris lined up in the “A” gaps like they were coming on a blitz. I believe it was this alignment that caused Anthony Steen to snap the ball too high for Brandon Doughty -- thus throwing off the timing of the play. By the time Doughty was able to grab the ball, Cedric Thornton and Sheneil Jenkins were already working a twist stunt up front. Thornton took three blockers with him, which allowed Jenkins to get further up the field. Doughty showed terrible pocket awareness and moved right back into Jenkins, who -- along with Kyle Wilber -- was able to knock the ball out of his hand for the fumble. The offense was later able to take that turnover and make it a 13-point lead going into half.

•Kavon Frazier continues to find ways to make plays in order to make a case for a roster spot. The rookie safety was matched in one-on-one coverage on the outside and was able to come up with a nice play on 4th-and-2 to get the defense off the field. What made the play special for him is that the Dolphins tried to use a rub route with their slot receiver and he had the awareness to not get picked. Frazier was able to fight through the traffic, stay inside and prevent Dominique Jones from getting his hands on the ball.

•Sometimes you have to be a little lucky when you are playing quarterback. Not to take anything away from Dak Prescott and the way he has played, but if not for a roughing the passer penalty by Andre Branch – he would have had an interception. It appeared that Prescott was throwing to a spot instead of really making sure that Brice Butler was open. Butler took a peek and he saw safety Isa Abdul-Quddos in position to drive. Butler hesitated just a bit, but the way Prescott threw the pass, he really had no chance to make the catch with how wide the ball was. Prescott caught a huge break, because to be honest, the contact by Branch didn’t look helmet-to-helmet but more to the shoulder pad area.

•I thought Andy Jones had a touchdown on that pass from Dak Prescott on the goal line. I was so confident, I even said so on the radio call. What I didn’t realize about the play initially was that Prescott had to reach high and to his left to grab the snap. By just that split second, he wasn’t able to get to the outside quick enough to put the ball on Jones going up the field. Jones was running along the goal line and was in position to make the catch. Instead, he had to come back up the field to secure the ball. To his credit, Prescott did the best he could to put the ball in a position where Jones could at least attempt to get it across the goal line -- but he just wasn’t close enough to make that happen.

•Jameill Showers really hasn’t had much go right for him in these games. He has been the victim of poor execution of those around him -- but in talking to him, he is not using that as an excuse. Showers continues to try to find ways to make plays, which he was able to do on a 3rd-and-10 in the fourth quarter. Showers was able to get the ball to Darius Jackson on the outside with a nice touch pass on the screen. The play was well set up with Showers not rushing the throw, but instead showing the patience to allow it to develop. He held the ball long enough to allow Jackson to slip out to the flat just behind Jake Brendel and Boston Stiverson. Those two were able to take care of first support to allow Jackson the space to get a head of steam and finish the catch for a 15-yard gain and a first down.

•I am curious about what this front office and coaching staff decide to do with Austin Traylor? If there is a tight end on the roster that has the ability to do what James Hanna does at the point of attack as a blocker – it is him. There were several snaps where he was clearly winning on the edge and it didn’t matter if he was blocking linebackers or defensive ends -- the job was getting done. What I really like about Austin Traylor is that he understands how to play with power and leverage to get the job done. He has this knack for capturing the edge and staying on his feet. There is just something with him that is catching my eye.

•Really nice job by Dax Swanson getting on tape and showing folks his ability as a punt returner. The ball was hammered by Matt Darr and Swanson was able to track it back before he started up the field. The return honestly wasn’t blocked well at all and the majority of the credit should go to Swanson -- not only for his courage to take the ball back into the teeth of the coverage but for his vision to see that’s where he needed to go. Swanson was able to make four unblocked tacklers miss him initially, then run through two more before he was finally brought to the ground. It was a tremendous effort on Swanson’s part when it appeared that there was really nothing there.

•I would have never believed that I would have observed an NFL game where two players were on the field at the same time from Shepherd College. Located in the town of Shepherdstown, West Virginia with a student body of just over 4,200 students, they should be proud that Shaneil Jenkins of the Dallas Cowboys and Dominique Jones of the Miami Dolphins are representing the school well in the league.
 

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Not really

He mentioned that Dak would have had his first INT if it weren't for a penalty that called it back. What he neglects to mention is the two previous penalties that called back two touchdowns. So he wouldn't have been in the situation to throw the INT in the first place

Not that it matters

But so far I'm happy with his play

He still has a perfect passer rating. Yes it's only in two games, and yes it's only preseason. But he is doing a hell of a lot better than any other QB in his rookie class. Hell, he's doing better than most QB's in the league right now

And for a rookie that's pretty impressive

With that said is he going to beat out Romo for the starting job? No way in hell

But I do feel better about Romo being injury prone. If he does go down I feel better with Dak behind center over anyone else from the last couple years
 

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Is it possible they keep 4 TE's? If they do and Traylor is one of them, who's the odd man out?
 

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Witten/Escobar/Swaim are locks. Hanna sounds like he might be headed to regular season PUP (or worse, maybe IR) so he might be out.

I don't think there's any way Rico Gathers makes the 53, they'll get him to the PS.

So there's likely an opening for a 4th TE, unless they go light there and decide to keep (or acquire) a real FB.
 
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