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He said you were too skanky for him anyway
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Mike Golic said today he's hearing the same thing, that Stanley is probably going to be the OT picked by San Diego if they choose one at 3
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I also don't mind this guy at QB, especially when compared to some of the other 3rd tier guys (Prescott, Driskel, Brissett, Kessler, Hogan)
He improved every yr at Arkansas and has put up some impressive numbers in a pro style offense against high end competition.
Wish he were a little bigger, but he definitely has throwing ability and makes excellent decisions. Footwork also appears to be pretty good.
[video=youtube;FbFfXifWWXI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbFfXifWWXI[/video]
He improved every yr at Arkansas and has put up some impressive numbers in a pro style offense against high end competition.
Wish he were a little bigger, but he definitely has throwing ability and makes excellent decisions. Footwork also appears to be pretty good.
[video=youtube;FbFfXifWWXI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbFfXifWWXI[/video]
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Do not make any new Ezekiel Elliot threads!
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Jets/Bills/Broncos/other wouldn't want him? Not buying it.
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I'm not really buying it either. I think the Cards are a darkhorse team for QB too.
Still, if he gets into the 20's I would be happy to throw a pick or Leary at someone to move there and take him. Needs work, but definitely has skill.
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10 Things I’m Hearing Going into Draft Day
A last roundup of news and notes before the first round kicks off
The MMQB's Peter King, Jenny Vrentas and Gary Gramling discuss which prospect will end up being the best player selected from the 2016 NFL Draft.
The draft creeps mercifully closer ... but first, this, from one NFL GM on Wednesday afternoon, with the start of the first round 31 hours away: “This feels like you’ve got a Monday night game, and you have to sit around all day Sunday and then all day Monday before your game. It’s awful.” You echo America, and America’s sports media, Mr. GM.
1. I am skeptical San Diego will trade down. The Chargers really have the first pick in the draft, because the Rams and Eagles, at 1 and 2, will take the quarterbacks to start the proceedings tonight. The Chargers had a slew of phone calls from teams trying to move up for the third pick before last week’s Browns-Eagles trade that netted Philadelphia the second pick. But the trade market has dried up since then, and I believe it’s unlikely some team will blow the Chargers away with an offer before GM Tom Telesco has to make the pick. “The premium is so high to move up,” said one GM with a pick in the top 20, “that you almost have to be trading for a quarterback to make it worth while.” I think San Diego sits and makes a pick. Throughout the league on Wednesday, particularly with teams choosing in the top 10, football people were talking about Notre Dame tackle Ronnie Stanley here … not the more noted tackle, Laremy Tunsil of Ole Miss. Telesco earned his stripes under former Colts GM Bill Polian, and one thing he learned is to never be afraid to stick your neck out and make a pick that will surprise some people. No one has had Stanley this high until the last day or two. Telesco will be fine with that, if Stanley is the top guy on his board.
2. Stanley is the hot name in the draft this morning. I’m hearing he’s the No. 1 tackle on the Jags’ board too—and though Jacksonville selects fifth, it’s more likely GM Dave Caldwell goes with a front-seven player or a trade down. Why Stanley? Two things I heard on Wednesday: reliability on the field, and a spotless record off it.
3. I haven’t changed my opinion about the Cowboys from my mock draft on Monday. With the fourth pick, Dallas could choose to trade down, which the Cowboys would consider for major value. Or they could take Jalen Ramsey, who’d be a boon to this group of cornerbacks. But I gave Dallas Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott in the mock draft, despite the adequate backfield situation now (Darren McFadden, Lance Dunbar, Alfred Morris), because I thought on Monday (and still do) that Elliott could be the kind of boost to Tony Romo’s career that Romo needs. I believe the Cowboys will fill their defensive line needs in later rounds.
4. Why the hesitation on Jalen Ramsey? Two teams mentioned to me either Ramsey’s lack of productivity or his lack of plays made at Florida State, where he had just two interceptions in his final 40 college games. And one team—which admittedly loves Ramsey—told me its biggest hesitation is that shutdown corners get some interceptions and don’t get shuttled back to safety (Ramsey started games at safety for FSU). In my opinion, teams are overthinking Ramsey, something that happens when you have forever to prepare for the draft. He’s a very good tackler, a good physical corner at the line, and big enough at 6-1¼ to line up against the big receivers almost every team has.
5. Trading partners. It was a pretty quiet day around the league on Wednesday, according to the several NFL people with whom I spoke. Some calls will be made today, to feel out trade possibilities. How that works, theoretically: If the guy we want is there at your spot, would you take our pick plus an X-rounder for your pick? I expect Baltimore (sixth pick) to be fact-finding today. I expect Tennessee GM Jon Robinson (at 15), who already has been on the phone in the top 10 assessing his chance to move up for a tackle, to be active today. I expect Miami (at 13) to try to move up for Ezekiel Elliott if the Cowboys don’t take him. And I expect Jacksonville (at 5) and Cleveland (at 8) to aggressively try to move down.
6. I don’t think the Jets or Browns will take Paxton Lynch. They’ve been mentioned often (and in my mock I had Lynch to Cleveland late in the first round after a projected trade) as landing spots for the Memphis QB. But I don’t think either team will use a first-round pick on Lynch. Who will? I know there’s interest, and I keep hearing the Saints (at 12) are fascinated with Lynch. But if New Orleans doesn’t draft Lynch as the heir to Drew Brees, I don’t know who will.
7. Best guesses on Myles Jack and Jaylon Smith. Jack: top 15; I’m sticking with the Giants at 10. There’s been so much conflicting medical information about his knee, and whether he’ll need microfracture surgery, which the UCLA linebacker admitted on Wednesday is possible. A team will have to be comfortable with the risk of taking him with a first-round pick. Smith: New England at 96. He’s the first-round pick they didn’t have this year, assuming the Notre Dame linebacker ever comes back from the nerve damage in his knee stemming from his Fiesta Bowl injury. The Pats can justify it because of their multiple selections in this area—60, 61, 91 and 96.
8. Alabama center Ryan Kelly is a hot guy in the second half of the first round. “No way he gets past 20 or so,” said one glum scout who works for a team drafting in the bottom third of the first round. “He could go to the Colts at 18. Perfect fit for Andrew Luck for the next 10 years.” I mock-drafted Kelly to Arizona at 29, but I don’t believe the Cardinals think they’ll have a chance at him then.
9. The quarterbacks are men of mystery. No one I spoke to on Wednesday thinks either Connor Cook or Christian Hackenberg is going in the first round. So watch: Now they’ll probably both go there.
10. The Steelers’ love of corners. “Pittsburgh’s taking a corner. Promise,” one GM said. “They were at every corner workout this year—and not just a scout. I’m talking Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert.” Artie Burns from Miami, perhaps, at 25?
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I think that Buckner is one of those players that some teams love and others want no part of. Bosa may have more widespread appeal.
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Gawd, I hope Jack doesn't land in our division. Who cares if his career only lasts five years or whatever, he could terrorize us in that time. Ron Leary supposedly has similar -- maybe even more serious -- issues, and he's been fine.
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Leary isn't the athlete Jack is though. What separates Jack from the other LB's is how athletic he is. If he has a bad wheel is he that much better than Darren Lee or Reggie Ragland?
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DC.com writers Cowboy mock:
Broaddus: Jalen Ramsey, Kevin Dodd, CJ Prosise, Isaac Suemalo, Jacoby Brissett, Marquez North, Cory James, Rolan Milligan, Adam Fuehne
Helman: Zeke Elliott, Jonathan Bullard, Ronald Blair, Jacoby Brissett, Cyrus Jones, Derrick Kindred, Jay Lee, DeVondre Campbell, Austin Blythe
Eatman: Zeke Elliott, Noah Spence, Christian Hackenberg, Maurice Canady, Kolby Listenbee, Spencer Drango, Glenn Gronoskowski, DeVondre Campbell, Marqui Christian
Phillips: Jalen Ramsey, Jonathan Bullard, Austin Johnson, Jordan Howard, Brandon Allen, Trevor Davis, Quiten Jefferson, Elijah Shumate, Matt Skura
Their write ups:
Bryan Broaddus: Defensive help to start the draft with the selection of Ramsey and Dodd. Both have the chance to be impact players right out of the gate. Prosise is a nice addition to the current running back group on the roster with his running ability and what he can do out of the backfield catching the ball. Brissett will need time but has one of the strongest arms in the draft. Seumalo could be your future center if Travis Frederick is not resigned. North was recruited to Tennessee by Derek Dooley - so they will take him on that and his physical traits. James is a faster Kyle Wilber and could potentially line up at several different spots in the scheme. Milligan tackles well and can also play out of the slot if needed. Fuehne has size with the ability to develop as a blocker. His hands are outstanding.
David Helman: I really hate the fact that I didn’t address the cornerback position until the fourth round, but I really love the fact that I completely re-stocked the defensive line by taking Jonathan Bullard and Ronald Blair back-to-back. Bullard has a proven knack for getting into the backfield -- and he can play both outside and inside – while Blair has the tools to blossom into a productive edge rusher. Meanwhile, I completely buried the most important aspect of my draft, which is that I’ve got the Cowboys selecting Ezekiel Elliott in the first round. I honestly think it’s anybody’s guess what they’ll do at No. 4, but Elliott gives them a surefire contender to win the rushing title for the next five years. He’d help make this team a contender for the rest of Tony Romo’s career. With the pass rush and the offense taken care of, I took Cyrus Jones and Derrick Kindred to help fix the secondary. Jones honestly intrigues me most as a return man, but he’s got the tenacity and talent to play slot corner. I’m banking on Kindred’s injury history to push him down the draft board, or else he’ll be long gone by the sixth round. Jay Lee and De’Vondre Campbell are solid players – though perhaps low on upside – and they could contribute quickly. Blythe helps address the interior of the offensive line and could be a valuable backup in the future.
Nick Eatman: This team has taken a center, a guard and a cornerback in the last three years of the first round. So far all three have turned out to be great picks. But there has been so splash. I think Jerry finally makes his big splash and takes Ezekiel Elliott at No. 4. It goes against all the talk about diminishing value of running backs. That goes out the window when there’s a true stud like this and Elliott makes this team better immediately. I think the Cowboys flirt with moving back into the first round and do what it takes to land Spence. Yeah, he’d be somewhat risky considering the issues this team already has at end, but they need a difference maker and he can be that guy. Hackenberg has great size and the ability to learn and develop, while Listenbee can flat-out run. This team needs that on offense. Drango might be a tweener but he’s too determined not to be a good pro. And every draft needs a “Gronk” right? But if I hit on any of these, I hope it’s the last one, which would make Christian the first player from my school ever drafted by the Cowboys. Expect tears.
Rob Phillips: There’s a qualifier to my top pick, because Ramsey has to be available at No. 4, of course. But he’s a terrific talent and versatile enough to contribute at multiple spots in the secondary as a rookie. In Rounds 2 and 3, Bullard and Johnson would provide much-needed depth to the defensive line. It’s a deep defensive line draft, which means the Cowboys don’t have to reach, but they could stand to add at least a couple players at tackle and end. Jerry Jones said this week that the Cowboys don’t feel pressured to draft Romo’s eventual successor this year, but Allen would be a solid developmental pick for a team. He doesn’t have prototypical height but he’s accurate and has pro-style experience.
Broaddus: Jalen Ramsey, Kevin Dodd, CJ Prosise, Isaac Suemalo, Jacoby Brissett, Marquez North, Cory James, Rolan Milligan, Adam Fuehne
Helman: Zeke Elliott, Jonathan Bullard, Ronald Blair, Jacoby Brissett, Cyrus Jones, Derrick Kindred, Jay Lee, DeVondre Campbell, Austin Blythe
Eatman: Zeke Elliott, Noah Spence, Christian Hackenberg, Maurice Canady, Kolby Listenbee, Spencer Drango, Glenn Gronoskowski, DeVondre Campbell, Marqui Christian
Phillips: Jalen Ramsey, Jonathan Bullard, Austin Johnson, Jordan Howard, Brandon Allen, Trevor Davis, Quiten Jefferson, Elijah Shumate, Matt Skura
Their write ups:
Bryan Broaddus: Defensive help to start the draft with the selection of Ramsey and Dodd. Both have the chance to be impact players right out of the gate. Prosise is a nice addition to the current running back group on the roster with his running ability and what he can do out of the backfield catching the ball. Brissett will need time but has one of the strongest arms in the draft. Seumalo could be your future center if Travis Frederick is not resigned. North was recruited to Tennessee by Derek Dooley - so they will take him on that and his physical traits. James is a faster Kyle Wilber and could potentially line up at several different spots in the scheme. Milligan tackles well and can also play out of the slot if needed. Fuehne has size with the ability to develop as a blocker. His hands are outstanding.
David Helman: I really hate the fact that I didn’t address the cornerback position until the fourth round, but I really love the fact that I completely re-stocked the defensive line by taking Jonathan Bullard and Ronald Blair back-to-back. Bullard has a proven knack for getting into the backfield -- and he can play both outside and inside – while Blair has the tools to blossom into a productive edge rusher. Meanwhile, I completely buried the most important aspect of my draft, which is that I’ve got the Cowboys selecting Ezekiel Elliott in the first round. I honestly think it’s anybody’s guess what they’ll do at No. 4, but Elliott gives them a surefire contender to win the rushing title for the next five years. He’d help make this team a contender for the rest of Tony Romo’s career. With the pass rush and the offense taken care of, I took Cyrus Jones and Derrick Kindred to help fix the secondary. Jones honestly intrigues me most as a return man, but he’s got the tenacity and talent to play slot corner. I’m banking on Kindred’s injury history to push him down the draft board, or else he’ll be long gone by the sixth round. Jay Lee and De’Vondre Campbell are solid players – though perhaps low on upside – and they could contribute quickly. Blythe helps address the interior of the offensive line and could be a valuable backup in the future.
Nick Eatman: This team has taken a center, a guard and a cornerback in the last three years of the first round. So far all three have turned out to be great picks. But there has been so splash. I think Jerry finally makes his big splash and takes Ezekiel Elliott at No. 4. It goes against all the talk about diminishing value of running backs. That goes out the window when there’s a true stud like this and Elliott makes this team better immediately. I think the Cowboys flirt with moving back into the first round and do what it takes to land Spence. Yeah, he’d be somewhat risky considering the issues this team already has at end, but they need a difference maker and he can be that guy. Hackenberg has great size and the ability to learn and develop, while Listenbee can flat-out run. This team needs that on offense. Drango might be a tweener but he’s too determined not to be a good pro. And every draft needs a “Gronk” right? But if I hit on any of these, I hope it’s the last one, which would make Christian the first player from my school ever drafted by the Cowboys. Expect tears.
Rob Phillips: There’s a qualifier to my top pick, because Ramsey has to be available at No. 4, of course. But he’s a terrific talent and versatile enough to contribute at multiple spots in the secondary as a rookie. In Rounds 2 and 3, Bullard and Johnson would provide much-needed depth to the defensive line. It’s a deep defensive line draft, which means the Cowboys don’t have to reach, but they could stand to add at least a couple players at tackle and end. Jerry Jones said this week that the Cowboys don’t feel pressured to draft Romo’s eventual successor this year, but Allen would be a solid developmental pick for a team. He doesn’t have prototypical height but he’s accurate and has pro-style experience.