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I had never heard of Cyprien until a week ago. Now he's 2nd best in the draft?

Broaddus is trying to use the Jerry method. Draft the guy high that no one is thinking about. Shows that you're a gambler.
 

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Broaddus is trying to use the Jerry method. Draft the guy high that no one is thinking about. Shows that you're a gambler.

This team needs to quit swinging for the fences in the middle rounds and just hit a few solid doubles.
 
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This team needs to quit swinging for the fences in the middle rounds and just hit a few solid doubles.

Problem is when you snag an Erik Williams and a Larry Allen from small schools and they turn into studs you get ****** Jerry thinking thats the norm not an anomoly and so he tries it every year.
 

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Problem is when you snag an Erik Williams and a Larry Allen from small schools and they turn into studs you get ****** Jerry thinking thats the norm not an anomoly and so he tries it every year.

That and he overrates the talent on the roster so he is reluctant to bring in someone who might push one of his other pet projects.
 

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Problem is when you snag an Erik Williams and a Larry Allen from small schools and they turn into studs you get ****** Jerry thinking thats the norm not an anomoly and so he tries it every year.

I wish he would pay attention to the much more common results of James Marten, Isaiah Stanback, Jason Williams, Robert Brewster, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Stephen McGee, Brandon Williams, DeAngelo Smith, Michael Hamlin, David Arkin, Josh Thomas, (soon to be added) Kyle Wilber, Matt Johnson, Danny Coale...instead of that one time the Cowboys drafted Larry Allen and then cut that shit out.
 

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Wasn't Larry a second round pick though? I'm talking 4 and 5. When did those gambles pay off?
 

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I wish he would pay attention to the much more common results of James Marten, Isaiah Stanback, Jason Williams, Robert Brewster, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Stephen McGee, Brandon Williams, DeAngelo Smith, Michael Hamlin, David Arkin, Josh Thomas, (soon to be added) Kyle Wilber, Matt Johnson, Danny Coale....

Probably all those guys (with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions) got drafted where everyone had them pegged to go.
 

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Probably all those guys (with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions) got drafted where everyone had them pegged to go.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. We just have rotten luck, over and over again. That and the Officials are out to get us.
 

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rrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttttt

And we just have the worst luck in the world.

Some guys work out, some dont. Some teams coach up players they draft better than others.
 

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5 To Know: Broaddus Breaks Down Handful Of Defensive Linemen

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Bryan Broaddus Football Analyst/Scout Follow

(Editor’s Note: With the draft still about three months away, Bryan Broaddus has already begun his draft research although we’re still early in the game. Each day of the next two weeks, we’ll focus on a position, with Broaddus profiling a handful of top players, going off mainly their college film. Today, we’ll focus on the defensive line.)

Here are a few defensive linemen to keep an eye on as we get ready for the 2013 NFL Draft:


•Star Lotulelei, DT, (6-4, 325), Utah

Massive man that can be difficult to block when he is in the gap…plays with some explosive strength…good leverage…can stuff blockers and win the one-on-one battles…can handle the double team blocks…doesn’t get knocked back…hard man to move…can disengage from blocks…will make plays down the line…not a slug that sits inside and doesn’t move, can get outside of the tackle box…see hand use…can make some short area quickness plays…see him chase the ball…doesn’t have many pass rush moves…more about playing with power and pushing the pocket from inside…forced two fumbles by the USC center just by lining up over his nose….would play as a one technique in this 4-3 scheme and a nose in 3-4….should test very well athletically.


•Sharrif Floyd, DT, (6-3, 301), Florida

Could play him at tackle or end, both in this Gators scheme….square player…gets up the field…nice quickness when used in the twist stunt…stays active, does not stop….fights off the block…can retrace steps when he gets up the field and the ball comes back inside….showed nice power by throwing Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel off balance on a pass rush…will fight the double team block…very mobile to chase….runs plays down from backside…good pass rush moves…quick arm over…active with his hands….can be trouble for blockers when he is on the move…can push the pocket from the inside…played well against outstanding competition….type of player that never comes off the field.


•Sheldon Richardson, DT (6-4, 295), Missouri

Richardson like Floyd is a Junior that is coming out early in this draft…runs very well…outstanding at chasing the ball…nice hustle play against South Carolina getting to the outside and causing a fumble on a screen…plays with balance…has a quick swim move…gets his hands inside to control blockers, can shed quickly…plays with initial quickness…Can change direction and redirect…will use a spin move on the pass rush to free himself…will tackle in space…can beat the block back…played some as a standup linebacker on certain schemes….three down player…really does a nice job of playing with awareness…hard guy to fool…could go either way with him or Floyd and be happy but see a little more in Floyd.


•Bjoern Werner, DE, (6-4, 255), Florida State

Reminds me a lot of Chris Long of the St. Louis Rams in the way he plays...Before this scheme change for the Cowboys, this guy would have not been a fit…Lines up at left defensive end for Florida State…really not sure how strong he is down after down but there were plays that he was good with his hands when engaged getting off the block…gets up the field in a hurry…likes to line up wide and rush…will play his technique….stays at home when he is required…able to slide down the line of scrimmage and stay in position to make the tackle…takes on the trap block…there were some pass rushes where he looked stiff getting around the corner…will play a little tall and that gets him in trouble…was lazy in his effort against Miami but the majority of the time, he is playing with all he has….snap to whistle player.


•Ezekiel Ansah, DE (6-5, 274), BYU

Is known as “Ziggy” to his teammates…from Ghana, Africa…has not played much football in his career but tools are there to develop…love his length for the position…very smooth athlete…moves well and with ease…had two sacks against Utah State, one of them showing some nice power splitting a double team…for his frame, he has surprising strength….is quick off the snap and when in used in games…like him on twist stunts…fights the cut off blocks…will stay active….fights hard to hold the point of attack…not great bulk but does what he can…when he gets in trouble is when he rushes down the middle….the more he can explode to the edge...better chance he has getting around the corner….relentless effort…didn’t look like he got frustrated when he was blocked in the Senior Bowl practices….showed up well against good competition…could very well be the wild card in this draft where he is taken.
 

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Gooselin did have Brewster in his final top-100 rankings though

we've gone over that a million times.

Brewster was exposed to the practice squad twice, waived a total of 3 times, all within 2 years of being drafted. No one elese had a decent garde on him since clearly no one else wanted him. Gosselin gota tip from the Cowboys that they liked him (way too much). No one else had any kind of 3rd round grade on that scrub.
 

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we've gone over that a million times.

Brewster was exposed to the practice squad twice, waived a total of 3 times, all within 2 years of being drafted. No one elese had a decent garde on him since clearly no one else wanted him. Gosselin gota tip from the Cowboys that they liked him (way too much). No one else had any kind of 3rd round grade on that scrub.

Gosselin's top-100 is too accurate year after year after year for me to even remotely believe that he took the Cowboys word on one guy and got no other info on the player whatsoever, and went ahead and placed that guy in his top-100 because of it.

I dont know how many teams had top-100 grades on the guy, but I am sure he wouldnt have been in the top-100 for Gosselin had the Cowboys been the only team to have tipped him off about the guy.
 
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