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Brady Quinn once traded for Peyton Hillis. And both now on same Chiefs team.
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Only 1 mil more guaranteed than we have that scrub we signed.

You mean the scrub who beat him out of a job and was the reason Philly picked him up off the scrap heap last year when the Bengals no longer wanted him?

I am not jumping on the Livings bandwagon but there is no way Mathis should be thought of as a better player.
 

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You mean the scrub who beat him out of a job and was the reason Philly picked him up off the scrap heap last year when the Bengals no longer wanted him?

I am not jumping on the Livings bandwagon but there is no way Mathis should be thought of as a better player.

He allowed 0 sacks between 2009 and 2010 and was awesome last year.
 

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You mean the scrub who beat him out of a job and was the reason Philly picked him up off the scrap heap last year when the Bengals no longer wanted him?

I am not jumping on the Livings bandwagon but there is no way Mathis should be thought of as a better player.

Wut?

If I read you right, you're saying Mathis is inferior because he once backed up Livings?

Okay.
 

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Wut?

If I read you right, you're saying Mathis is inferior because he once backed up Livings?

Okay.


I think the point is, that if a change of scenery (team) helped Mathis, then why can it not be so for Livings?
 

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Wut?

If I read you right, you're saying Mathis is inferior because he once backed up Livings?

Okay.

Well yeah doesn't the superior player usually start?

Mathis was a 3rd round pick who has been on 4 different teams and could never beat out Livings.

Why should I think differently? Because Mathis had 1 good year after being widely considered a draft bust.

Livings was undrafted so its not like the Bengals had a reason to play favorites.
 

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Well yeah doesn't the superior player usually start?

Mathis was a 3rd round pick who has been on 4 different teams and could never beat out Livings.

Why should I think differently? Because Mathis had 1 good year after being widely considered a draft bust.

Livings was undrafted so its not like the Bengals had a reason to play favorites.

No. Not always.

As little faith as I have in the Cowboys ability to spot a good offensive lineman, I have even less in the Bengals.

You're talking about two of the worst franchises over the last 15 or so years. I wonder why the Eagles weren't interested in upgrading from Mathis to Livings?
 
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