2025 Dallas Cowboys Offseason Thread

[dbair1967]

I don’t think Rush will ever be back after how Jerruh did him dirty last year.

Nobody did Rush "dirty"

 

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[dbair1967]

I personally am not so sure he won't see a SB in Seattle. They've got some nice pieces A little luck in the draft and they could be right there in the thick of it.

Of course, a lot depends on Darnold, but the coach in Seattle wanted Darnold. He coached him in San Fran. So that was a planned outcome that in their eyes makes them better.

I'll wager whatever you'd like on that. They might make the playoffs because they play in a bad division, but even that is far from a given.

 

[dbair1967]

Do you really think the Philly GM is as dumb as Jerry Jones?

Do you really think they'd sign Dillon if the medical staff said he was one hit away from permanent retirement? Does that sound like a move the Eagles would make?

Granted, this is the NFL and every player is one hit away from permanent retirement.

Well Jerry didnt sign Dillon and as far as we know, never had any interest. It might be Jerry's 1st one up ever of that guy.

Again, Dillon is a bigger name because of who he played for, but Williams numbers are just as good as Dillon's despite nearly a full season less on the field. Williams has a knee injury (two+ seasons ago) but I'd rather take my chances on a guy with a routine ACL over someone that had to sit out a yr because of neck stuff 24/7/365.

 

[dbair1967]

I don't think Garrett was all that bad. I think there were things that happened that are directly the fault of Jerry Jones and Garrett had to do his best to mend it.

I think Garret wanted to get rid of Dez Bryant and that is why Dez has a beef with him. Coaches like Dooley were exhausted with having to deal with Dez. But as fans we tend to side with the star player.

I think Garrett wanted nothing to do with players like Randy Gregory, Jaylon Smith, and Greg Hardy. I think that when Garrett wanted to instill discipline on the team for things like Marion Barber's sideline antics, it was Jerry who interfered.

I think a lot has gone on over the years with Jerry that has been suppressed because coaches do not want to be blackballed by Jerry (and reporters want access). Jerry has a lot of power in the NFL. You see some of the frustration come out when Aikman talks sometimes. He'll allude to how Garrett had to deal with shit sometimes without directly saying it.

The one constant that hasn't changed is Jerry Jones. Except now it has spawned. At some friggin point, we need to stop blaming the coaching. Without Joe Montana and Jerry Rice, Bill Walsh becomes an average coach with a lot of ideas. The GM must bring in players! Not players who want to smoke weed (David Irving) or have domestic violence issues that take half the season away (Zeke).

Garrett wanted "the right kind of guys," meaning he wanted people who took the game seriously enough to not drink and drive (Josh Brent). He wanted to draft and sign players who listened to coaching, not players who wanted to do what they wanted to do (Dez Bryant).

The GM didn't really listen to his coach, but the coach was and is a loyal person, IMHO. So why isn't Mike McCarthy saying anything? because he wants a job.

Garrett might not have been the second coming of Tom Landry (neither was Landry for a good while), but I think fans shit on Garrett unfairly.

I just hope Schotty finds a way to navigate the currents and has luck on his side.

Garrett was fucking terrible dude, and I say that after probably being more excited than anyone when he took over midseason when Wade got rightfully shitcanned.

Any quality owner/GM would have fired him after the second 8-8 season, and if not then certainly would have fired him after the third straight 8-8 season.

 

[dbair1967]

They weren't that far away last year.

From the Super Bowl?

Yeah, they were a fucking long way off.

 

[dbair1967]

This might warrant some watching.

Broaddus and Fishhead have been pimping Quinn Ewers to us but Fisher is never right about anything and Broaddus is no more than 50/50 at best.

Before Howard transferred to Ohio State this past season he started at Kansas St, which is the same school our new OL worked at (and with him directly) for several seasons.

 

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[Aggiepride]

From the Super Bowl?

Yeah, they were a fucking long way off.

Read the context! From winning the division.

 

[dbair1967]

Read the context! From winning the division.

Once upon a time we won the NFC East twice in three years, going 12-5 both times

 

[Monte300]

I don’t think Rush will ever be back after how Jerruh did him dirty last year.

You dislike that Jerruh is a POS?

 

[Monte300]

Nobody did Rush "dirty"

Sit him final regular season game to avoid paying him an incentive? Damn skippy that’s dirty at least in my mind it is.

 

[Monte300]

It’s unclear to me if that incentive represented $250k or $500k but with an annual salary of $2.5 million it represented at least 10%

 

[Aggiepride]

Garrett was fucking terrible dude, and I say that after probably being more excited than anyone when he took over midseason when Wade got rightfully shitcanned.

Any quality owner/GM would have fired him after the second 8-8 season, and if not then certainly would have fired him after the third straight 8-8 season.

You are entitled to your opinion, but no, he was not. Just listen to people like Laufenberg, Aikman, etcetera, who know Garrett personally and know the inside story. From time to time they open up and talk about it and you can tell that Garrett wasn't always getting the type of players that he preferred.

Aikman's "outbursts" aren't happening in a vacuum. He talks to Garrett. They are buddies. If you go to their Instagram account you'll see they meet up weekly.

Yes, Jimmy Johnson had problem children on the team, but he never (to my recollection) had players who wouldn't listen to coaching or who put weed ahead of winning. Irvin had his problems, but being too stupid to learn all the positions was not one of them.

If Dez would have committed himself in the offseason to learning to play all the positions then that alone would have led to one or two more victories, instead of always lining up at the X where DCs could game plan easier. And no, you do not need coaching to do that, you need to get off your ass in the offseason and do it. You have millions, Hire your own coach. Go to a offseason camp!

And this is not just about Dez. For several years the OL was horrible. Do you remember Ryan Cook playing center? Most do not. Because he was terrible. For some reason they remember Phil Costa. Notice how nobody is comparing Zack Martin to Nate Livings or Gary Bernadeau.

The DTs at one point might have been worse. In the first game of the 2014 season Dallas played the Niners with two rookie DTs. One was a 7th round pick and the other a UDFA. By itself that would be bad, but neither turned out to be anything in the NFL

Do you remember Ken Bishop? He was the starter . He was pick 251. He was listed at 300 lbs. The other starter, I think, was Davon Coleman, who was 276 lbs. and undrafted.

That is what the GM forced Garrett to try to win with in the first game of the NFL season in 2014. He ended up in the CFL. The Cowboys ended 2014 with a 12-4 record. That was the year they beat the Lions at home. That was a wild card game

The Seahawks and Packers had the bye week. each of them finished 12-4. Had our GM used some friggin foresight and given the team a better chance at DT, the Cowboys likely would have beaten the Niners at home and finished 13-3.

Of course this is also the year of the Dez Bryant "no-catch" in which all he had to do was focus on the catch throughout, instead of thinking about his celebration. And, naturally, the game would have been played in Dallas not Green Bay, which would have made a difference.

So these "little things" like not having talent at DT on the field matter. You'll call it excuses, but it matters. Your GM can't put your coach behind the eight ball. The coach can't be fighting the GM behind closed doors.

So no, Garrett was not terrible. was he great, obviously not, but he wasn't terrible.

 

[Aggiepride]

Sit him final regular season game to avoid paying him an incentive? Damn skippy that’s dirty at least in my mind it is.

Not in my mind. I would have sat him sooner because I wanted more losses. Jeanty would be assured of being a Cowboy.

Sometimes "dirty decisions" need to be made for the future good.

 

[Monte300]

I guess that works if one’s strategy is to sit the better player and tank the season for a slightly better draft pick.

 

[Aggiepride]

Once upon a time we won the NFC East twice in three years, going 12-5 both times

What's your point? I'm talking about the Seahawks being in the thick of it to win the division. You're the one who threw the Super Bowl.

But the Seahawks have made many changes. So nobody yet knows how those changes will work out.

I like what the Seahawks have done-especially at the QB position. It's not so much that I think Darnold is great. Just in the sense that they are showing a willingness to not be beholden to one position or one player.

 

[Aggiepride]

I guess that works if one’s strategy is to sit the better player and tank the season for a slightly better draft pick.

IMHO, it is not a "slightly better pick". Each draft only has a relative handful of true blue chip prospects. It depends on the draft each year, but usually there aren't more than maybe 10 players who have a shot at being a HOF type player.

Sometimes you get lucky and the player falls. Like when Micah came out, there were articles that he should be the first overall pick. But I like controlling my destiny, even if the pick turns out to be Aundray Bruce or pick your favorite bust.

 

[dbair1967]

Sit him final regular season game to avoid paying him an incentive? Damn skippy that’s dirty at least in my mind it is.

It was freaking pennies to the franchise dude...nobody sat him to "avoid" paying him that money.

They played Lance (way too late IMO but whatever) because to them, the season at that point was truly over and they wanted to give the guy a chance to play.