Who should pay for retired players medical bills

[Bob Sacamano]

What! I'm agreeing with you.

These poor guys getting all those six figures and shits forced to play like gladiators when clearly there was no way of knowing or even suspecting that running into each other at full speed might cause bodily harm.

I mean wtf 'merica!

Exactly, they were compensated handsomely during their heyday. They shouldn't be compensated more now.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

I'm sure that's exactly what they'd try to do. So what? you retards use the same argument about fast food restaurants. Guess what? if the owners try to drop the cost on the fans, the fans will either accept it and move on OR if the market won't bear it the fans will stop paying and the owners will have to eat it. They do the same thing with burgeoning players salaries today. Stop acting like you're making some sort of salient argument against doing the right thing with this 2nd grade economics bullshit.

#alloverthemap
#consistentlystupid

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Exactly, they were compensated handsomely during their heyday. They shouldn't be compensated more now.

Even If the costs of your bills are equal to your wages

 

[superpunk]

#ijustwon

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Even If the costs of your bills are equal to your wages

Yes. Even more reason to then.

 

[superpunk]

bob doing some sort of weird, pointless trolling ITT. I don't get it yet but I know it when I see it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

"I decided to choose an extremely rough career path with no pension, but what the hell, let's retroactively pay me for my trouble!"

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Omg I decided to lie about my books to steal tax payer money to build a stadium then I charge them 6 figures for the right to to then purchase tickets then I release the talent from his non guaranteed contract and leave him on his own haha #white

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Omg lets pretend that there's a problem with black head coaches in the NFL and make up a retarded sham of a Rooney rule
to cover up the previous posts reality

 

[Midswat]

It's like Bob and MBth4th are engaged in a war of not making sense and I can't tell who's winning.

 

[Ben_in_Austin]

There is this thing called insurance. You can buy it, especially if you're rich.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

It's like Bob and MBth4th are engaged in a war of not making sense and I can't tell who's winning.

 

[Iamtdg]

I think we all know my position on this. No need for me to embarrass SP again. #carryon

 

[superpunk]

There is this thing called insurance. You can buy it, especially if you're rich.

holy fuck no you cant

 

[superpunk]

Omg I decided to lie about my books to steal tax payer money to build a stadium then I charge them 6 figures for the right to to then purchase tickets then I release the talent from his non guaranteed contract and leave him on his own haha #white

Omg lets pretend that there's a problem with black head coaches in the NFL and make up a retarded sham of a Rooney rule
to cover up the previous posts reality

owner backing so hot right now

 

[Ben_in_Austin]

holy fuck no you cant

You can no longer buy health insurance?

 

[superpunk]

You can no longer buy health insurance?

why does noone read the articles and then think they should comment anyhow?

The NFL’s health insurance lasts five years after retirement — players who lasted fewer than three seasons don’t qualify for it at all — but the most serious health consequences of a football career often don’t manifest for a decade or more.

The NFL’s disability board, jointly administered by management and the players’ union, has a denial rate of almost 60 percent. When players file for workers’ compensation for the on-the-job harm they suffered, they often find their claims opposed by their former teams. The league is currently in legal and legislative fights with at least 3,000 former players, who, like Williams, have attempted to seek reparation for their injuries by filing claims in worker-friendly states. When these claims and all other avenues for medical care are exhausted, the cost of their poor health can often fall on the taxpayer.

Under their labor agreement, vested NFL players — those who played at least three seasons — are entitled to five years of medical coverage after they retire. At that point, they must figure out a way to insure their bodies, not an easy proposition given their injury history. Darryl Talley played linebacker from 1983 to 1996, appearing in four Super Bowls and two Pro Bowls as a member of the Buffalo Bills. Today at 52, he says, companies have offered him limited policies, but won’t cover his elbows, back, neck, ankles and knees that have gone through the NFL’s wringer.

According to the 2008 congressional report, the NFL disability board had an initial approval rate of 34 percent. It rose slightly on appeal to 42 percent. The board is known among applicants as “the land of denial.”

In 2008, Williams instead applied to the league’s joint replacement program. He did so on the day he was discharged from the Hospital for Special Surgery, limping on crutches and in a full leg cast into the NFL offices on Park Avenue to submit his application in person. The process required some 50 pages of paperwork, he says, and took two years to process.

He finally received a letter from the league in 2010 telling him he was approved for a payment of slightly more than $5,000, a fraction of what his multiple replacements cost. Also, he needed to do more paperwork to collect it.

In disgust, Williams never bothered to finish the claim.

there are 18k former players, and an extremely small percentage are the wealthy multi-millionaires that people in this thread seems to think EVERY former player is.

 

[Iamtdg]

Nothing in there says they can't buy their own insurance.

It says that it was tough to get prior injuries covered in policy. Well, duh. No insurance company covers pre-existing illnesses. They make a crap ton more money than the average joe, so that is supposed to counteract the benefits thing. They have the money to cover what the insurance won't.

Simple addition.

 

[superpunk]

Darryl Talley played linebacker from 1983 to 1996, appearing in four Super Bowls and two Pro Bowls as a member of the Buffalo Bills. Today at 52, he says, companies have offered him limited policies, but won’t cover his elbows, back, neck, ankles and knees that have gone through the NFL’s wringer.

yes they'll totally cover all his body parts that won't need any attention. but from neck to torso you're fucked.

They make a crap ton more money than the average joe

no, they don't.

 

[Iamtdg]

Yes, they do.