We're not "negative fans."

[MrB]

Sorry, I'm a lifer

We've all endured much worse than last season. Besides, last season was just a primer for what it will be like when Romo retires. Then I'll still have two teams in QB hell to root for as I doubt either team will fix the problem anytime soon

That's exactly why it is imperative that they draft a QB this year. They have an opportunity to groom a guy that can hit the ground running once Tony calls it quits (or the team hits the escape button on his contract).

 

[Scot]

You know it's imperative, I know it's imperative, we all know it's imperative, but the problem is Jerry won't see it as imperative especially after watching Denver's D win them a SB with the 30th ranked QB in the league

So defense will be Jerry's new "imperative"

I fear with his addled brain he will soon forget the pain of last seasons QB situation and convince himself that he needs to take a defensive player with the #4 pick

 

[Doomsday]

You know it's imperative, I know it's imperative, we all know it's imperative, but the problem is Jerry won't see it as imperative especially after watching Denver's D win them a SB with the 30th ranked QB in the league

So defense will be Jerry's new "imperative"

I fear with his addled brain he will soon forget the pain of last seasons QB situation and convince himself that he needs to take a defensive player with the #4 pick

But... He actually does need to do that. This defense sucks. Plus the more the fans the writers, TV reporters, experts call for a qb at 4, the less likely he is to pull the trigger on it.

And if he has now figured out that defense wins championships I can't fault him for that, I can only fault the timing of this epiphany.

 

[Dodger12]

Plenty of ppl root for more than just one team

You're the only one I know.

 

[TheZoneSucks]

I've mentioned before in here that this board is full of negative fans (not all just most) but you guys are really proving it. First by starting a thread titled We're not "negative fans". The fact that you feel the need to defend yourself shows that I struck a nerve.

Jerry can be accused of a lot of things and is definitely responsible for the shitty product that is on the field and has been on field for 20+ years but to say that Jerry is not a genius at marketing this team only shows that you are blinded and bitter by your own hate. Take your jilted glasses off and you'll see. You claim to be realists, well that's also real.

Jesus Christ...

Look, the Cowboys would be worth as much and be as popular or more so if I was the Owner instead of Jerry since 1989. It isn't exactly brain surgery or landing deep space rockets on moving comets. This franchise is literally a golden goose. It is a money printing machine, a Sampo if you will. It would be hard to fuck that aspect up even if you were trying to on purpose.

Actually I am positive this team would be worth much more and be even more popular if I was the owner because I would not insist on being GM. I'd accept only the very best to run it just as I want Saul Goodman as my lawyer or the very best brain surgeon on the planet if I needed a tumor removed.

I would have even hired Jimmy too because I am a U of M hardcore fan from back in the Schnellenberger days. When Jimmy was hired by Jerry it was like I had won the lottery as a football fan, and in hindsight I did win that lottery with 3 Lombardi trophies coming. I never would have ran him off, and if he was burned out coaching I keep him as GM and let him hire the next head coach.

Just fuckin sign checks and get the hell out of the way. That is all. There's no genius needed. This franchise is valuable and popular in spite of Jerry, not because of him.

 

[TheZoneSucks]

To say that all Jerry does is sign check is false.

If that is all Jerry did do then we wouldn't be having this conversation. We all wish that was the only thing Jerry did. Ironically for you is that the Cowboys never had more football success when all Jerry did was just sign checks and let Jimmy run the whole show.

 

[TheZoneSucks]

I'm with you on the new coach. There's just no way an NFL team should look that bad....Cleveland Browns bad. Can't throw downfield. Can't get a 1st down in short yardage situation. Can't punch it in from the red zone. Can't get a turnover. I mean.....just historically bad. That's a major issue with me under Garrett; it's that we've never seen this level ineptitude in ALL our years of watching Cowboys football. I've never seen a team lose when the probablility of losing is almost nill. It's downright pathetic and embarrassing.

I had started a list of all time team and/or NFL records of shame a while back. Just off the top of my head I had like 9 or 10, but I know there are many more. Single game and whole season all time worsts are the only thing anyone will remember about the Garrett era. I need a Percy Howard type to do the research on just how many all time team and NFL worsts have been achieved by the Garrett coached Cowboys because I'm too lazy to do it myself. Got to be at least two dozen or more for that list of shame.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

I need a Percy Howard type to do the research on just how many all time team and NFL worsts have been achieved by the Garrett coached Cowboys because I'm too lazy to do it myself.

I'm up to it...

Also, maybe cmd and UVA knew what they were doing when they bowtied #109?

 

[MrB]

Jesus Christ...

Look, the Cowboys would be worth as much and be as popular or more so if I was the Owner instead of Jerry since 1989. It isn't exactly brain surgery or landing deep space rockets on moving comets. This franchise is literally a golden goose. It is a money printing machine, a Sampo if you will. It would be hard to fuck that aspect up even if you were trying to on purpose.

Actually I am positive this team would be worth much more and be even more popular if I was the owner because I would not insist on being GM. I'd accept only the very best to run it just as I want Saul Goodman as my lawyer or the very best brain surgeon on the planet if I needed a tumor removed.

I would have even hired Jimmy too because I am a U of M hardcore fan from back in the Schnellenberger days. When Jimmy was hired by Jerry it was like I had won the lottery as a football fan, and in hindsight I did win that lottery with 3 Lombardi trophies coming. I never would have ran him off, and if he was burned out coaching I keep him as GM and let him hire the next head coach.

Just fuckin sign checks and get the hell out of the way. That is all. There's no genius needed. This franchise is valuable and popular in spite of Jerry, not because of him.

If that's the case why wasn't it making money when Jerry bought it?

 

[yimyammer]

If that's the case why wasn't it making money when Jerry bought it?

The economy was in shambles from the savings and loan scandals and the tax reform act of 1986 (TRA86)

Real estate and vanity investments (like the Cowboys) took a direct hit to their value because their values had been pumped up artificially by their tax benefits. In a nut shell, prior to the TRA86, passive losses generated from real estate could be offset against active income reducing the taxes due for people like doctors etc.

So what happened was people were buying real estate that were showing losses after depreciation and then using those losses to offset their primary income tax obligation.

Keep in mind that the highest tax rate was 50% in 1985, so some savvy folks discovered they could create real estate partnerships that bought real estate that generated losses with the primary benefit to investors being that they could reduce the taxes due on their primary business activities and obtain ownership in a hard asset in the process.

1989 was probably the bottom of the market after the devastating effects of the TRA86 and the Savings and loan scandals.

Jerri steps in and buys the most valuable franchise/best brand on the planet at a hugely discounted price without any of the previous investment rationale burdening his investment. He had no where to go but up from that point. He deserves credit for having the balls and wherewithal to buy the team but from that point forward all it took was business 101 to get the ship back on course.

You always make money on the buy and that's what jerri did so well.

Here's an article that describes what was happening at that time:

MODERN HISTORY THE GREAT DALLAS BUST WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?

Pro-tip: Never buy real estate or any investment when its primary value is derived from a tax benefit that could change overnight and bankrupt you in the process

 

[Doomsday]

If that's the case why wasn't it making money when Jerry bought it?

As pointed out earlier in this thread, that is because that is exactly what Bum Bright wanted. Reading can be your friend.

 

[MrB]

As pointed out earlier in this thread, that is because that is exactly what Bum Bright wanted. Reading can be your friend.

Who has time for that?

 

[Doomsday]

Who has time for that?

Anyone who is interested in learning something perchance to not be just a dumb cluck.

 

[TheZoneSucks]

About those records of shame of the Garrett era, three just this season alone as pointed out by none other than company shill Spagnola:

Franchise and NFL worst - fewest turnovers in a season
Franchise worst - fewest fumble recoveries in a season (a mere 3)
Franchise worst - fewest forced fumbles in a season (recovered or not; 11)

Others that I recall from just the last few season, though not an extensive list:

Franchise worst receiving yards allowed to one opposing receiver (300+ by Megatron, and 2nd worst in NFL history)
NFL worst for most first downs in one game allowed (41 by New Orleans)
NFL worst for fastest allowing of a TD in overtime (again to the Saints, but in a different game than above)
Franchise worst for fewest rushing TDs in one season (even worse than the previous worst of 1982 which was a 9 game short season due to the strike.
Tony Romo is the only QB to lose with a 140+ QB rating, and has done so three times including a playoff game. All other QBs in league history are undefeated with the same numbers.
Only team to lose two games in one season where win probability had reached 99% for the Cowboys. The Lions game especially. Had the Cowboys knelt down 3 times and punted on their last two drives they win that game. That is when I really knew just how moronic our coaching staff really is.
Franchise worst for defense and yards given up in 2013 (third worst in NFL history).

And as I said before I know there are others that I am not recalling at the moment. Garret should have never been hired, or at least fired the same day Wade Phillips was.

 

[yimyammer]

Yay!

 

[MrB]

I guess if you're not going to be good, be good at it.

 

[Midswat]

But those claps tho....

And the speeches. "That's not why we came here!"

The team feeds off that.