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If you listen to the 911 that I posted earlier, the gunshot isn't until the 50 second part of the video.

And the people who called said the reason they were calling was because there was a man outside yelling for help.

Which means, Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating him for probably close to 2 minutes (assuming the 911 callers called immediately and didn't spend some time rubbernecking outside their window.).

Dismiss 2 minutes as nothing, but count it out in your head. Then imagine you've got a man on top of you, beating you that entire time while your pleas for help go unanswered, and the person assaulting you doesn't let up.
This is a clever dream you've created in your head.
 
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Hmm. Lots of passion here, but no donations to Zimmerman yet?

Classic :trolling

Whether or not I donate to Zimmerman (which I wont) has nothing to do with his innocence or guilt.

I believe in a lot of causes, but because I'm cheap, I donate to virtually none of them.




No, but if the person who is following you reaches into his pocket, it damn sure is.

No, suprisingly it isn't.

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Zimmerman is a fucking coward. I only hope he gets what's coming to him.

You don't shoot someone because they are beating you up.

He was tough enough to put himself at risk, but once he realized he bit off more than he could chew, he took the bitch way out and shot an unarmed kid.
 
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Martin - A coochy coochy coo! A coochy coochy coo! You want some of my skittles? I'm just a little school boy!

Zimmerman - DIE BLACK INVADER!!

POW



Or something like that, right?
 

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All I know is, it's pretty fucked up that a 17 year old kid is dead because of a fight.

The kid may have been a punk. May have been a thug. Druggie. Still a kid. No weapon. Only his fists.

Shoot the fucker in the arm or leg, don't end his life because he's beating your ass. You followed him. Zimmerman started the whole thing.
 
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All I know is, it's pretty fucked up that a 17 year old kid is dead because of a fight.

The kid may have been a punk. May have been a thug. Druggie. Still a kid. No weapon. Only his fists.

Shoot the fucker in the arm or leg, don't end his life because he's beating your ass. You followed him. Zimmerman started the whole thing.

Re-read that PM I sent you yesterday.
 

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I don't follow.

Did you not hear the 9/11 call?

Was Zimmerman yelling for help while Martin was on top of him tickling him?

How the hell do you know that was Zimmerman calling for help?

Why could it not have been Trayvon calling for help?
 

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How the hell do you know that was Zimmerman calling for help?

Why could it not have been Trayvon calling for help?

I doubt Trayvon was calling for help. He was shot. If this happened more often punks like him would think twice before jumping on someone over something minor.
 
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How the hell do you know that was Zimmerman calling for help?

Why could it not have been Trayvon calling for help?

Aside from the fact that his dad stated it wasn't his sons voice? And that it makes zero sense for a man to be on top of another man, screaming for help like a wounded animal?
 
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I doubt Trayvon was calling for help. He was shot. If this happened more often punks like him would think twice before jumping on someone over something minor.

Sadly, it happens all the time.

It's just rarely made into a media firestorm.
 

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Aside from the fact that his dad stated it wasn't his sons voice? And that it makes zero sense for a man to be on top of another man, screaming for help like a wounded animal?

He's gonna take Trayvon's side no matter what so you're wasting your time.
 
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Eh. It's either just trolling or padding post count for someone to have 100 adamant posts in defense of Zimmerman in this thread, but not actually help when he's in legit need.

All the poor guy did was shoot a blacky who was going nowhere in life anyway, and now needs money from his supporters. After spending hours reading about why he's innocent and supporting him so much in this thread, it's time for you adamant peeps to take a stand. He is desperately pleading for help, while his supporters toil away on message boards for free. Y'all are no different than Hostile if you're creating this fake internet persona and then not actually supporting your man Zimmerman in real life. What's next, you guys played for BYU?
 
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No, suprisingly it isn't.

:sbk92
I know you don't know how the law works, so let me educate you. Self-defense laws are in place so you can use reasonable force to defend yourself. I know, it sounds self-explanatory, but apparently you don't get it.

If someone is following you and reaches into their pocket for something after you confront them, most people are not going to wait to see what they pull out of their pocket to defend themselves. Martin may have been justified in killing Zimmerman himself. Zimmerman was obviously armed.

But Zimmerman was the one who escalated this into a deadly situation. You can't claim self-defense if you were the person who escalated it into a deadly situation.

It would be like a bank robber going into a bank armed, then a teller grabs a gun from under the counter and starts shooting at the suspect. The robber cannot then shoot the teller and claim self-defense because the teller was shooting at him.
 

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Aside from the fact that his dad stated it wasn't his sons voice? And that it makes zero sense for a man to be on top of another man, screaming for help like a wounded animal?

And Trayvons mother and father said it was Trayvons voice.
 

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Sadly, it happens all the time.

It's just rarely made into a media firestorm.

Yeah you're right. CNN has absolutely blown this way out of proportion and fabricated all kinds of details - from the contrasting pictures where Zimmerman looks like a thug and Martin an innocent little teenager to Zimmerman being white, then white Hispanic (whatever that is), then Hispanic. I don't understand the point of it all, but one thing I do know is that I won't be supporting CNN ever again.
 
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