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[Dodger12]

You know exactly what he said when he started that speech. His exact words were: “when Mexico sends it’s people, they’re not sending their best, they’re not sending you (then points to the crowd), they’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us (he said us but clearly meant them), they’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some are I assume are good people (said sarcastically).”

So ALL the people Mexico sends are all of those things? That’s about as racists as it gets. If you are ok with that and you don’t see a problem then guess what, you’re a racists too whether you think you are or your not. You’re part of the problem. You’re the reason everyone is fed up, again doesn’t matter how you try to spin it, you are the reason this country has gone to shit. Brown and black peoples are not going to take your shit anymore. That’s the way things are now like it not.


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So you're admitting you made a mistake and misquoted the man. At least you have some sense.

Also, Mexicans are now included with black or brown people? Is someone who's dark/brown/olive skinned from, say, the Middle East also included in this posse? Is there a certain percentage of skin tone that allows folks to join the brown/black victim club? Asking for a friend.......

 

[Dodger12]

I didn't cover for anyone, I merely set the record straight.

You did (set the record straight). You also did his homework for him. He should thank you.

 

[MrB]

So you're admitting you made a mistake and misquoted the man. At least you have some sense.

Also, Mexicans are now included with black or brown people? Is someone who's dark/brown/olive skinned form, say, the Middle East also included in this posse? Is there a certain percentage of skin tone that allows folks to join the brown/black victim club? Asking for a friend.......

You really are an idiot aren’t you? I honestly thought you were just being stubborn but I can see that you really do have a lack of intelligence.


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[Scot]

You know exactly what he said when he started that speech. His exact words were: “when Mexico sends it’s people, they’re not sending their best, they’re not sending you (then points to the crowd), they’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us (he said us but clearly meant them), they’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some are I assume are good people (said sarcastically).”

So ALL the people Mexico sends are all of those things? That’s about as racists as it gets. If you are ok with that and you don’t see a problem then guess what, you’re a racists too whether you think you are or your not. You’re part of the problem. You’re the reason everyone is fed up, again doesn’t matter how you try to spin it, you are the reason this country has gone to shit. Brown and black peoples are not going to take your shit anymore. That’s the way things are now like it not.


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Again, nothing the President said was untrue. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t make the President or anyone else a racist. It just makes YOU feel better to be able to slap a negative label on things you don’t agree with!

Nowhere did the President say “all Mexicans”

You assumed he meant All Mexicans because it fits into your agenda of Hate the bad Orange man bullshit

And that’s fine, you are free to hate him.

Does Trump say stupid shit?
Yes
Do I wish he would put the fucking Twitter down?
Fuck yes
Does he have the balls to say shit that no other politician would say?
Yes
And is that a good thing? Not always.


You didn’t like what he said, it offended you, and that’s fine.

If you are wondering why what he said didn’t offend me? It’s because I know what he said to be true from personal experience.

If the truth offends you so be it, you are free to be offended by anything the bad orange man says.

But simply because you are offended by the truth, does not make anyone else including the person speaking the truth a racist.

Nor does just the act of voting for Trump make anyone a Racist

 

[Doomsday]

You did (set the record straight). You also did his homework for him. He should thank you.

Ha. I didn't have to do any homework. I merely keep up with shit and accessed my memory. Flawed though it sometimes may be.

Mr.B apparently didn't even read it, instead posted a video in response to you which proved accurate as well.

 

[Number1]

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So you're admitting you made a mistake and misquoted the man. At least you have some sense.

Also, Mexicans are now included with black or brown people? Is someone who's dark/brown/olive skinned form, say, the Middle East also included in this posse? Is there a certain percentage of skin tone that allows folks to join the brown/black victim club? Asking for a friend.......

wow, you've been brain raped - the "victim's club"?
umm ... survivors is a more apt word

and your rhetorically trick of trying to call protestors a "posse" is as tacky and typical as a Jerry Springer episode
it's right / left wing clowns that push vigilantism via false narratives
... and you're too dumb to know it's called justifying terrorism

"Also, Mexicans are now included with black or brown people? Is someone who's dark/brown/olive skinned form, say, the Middle East also included in this posse?"

a thing called European colonialism happened in many places, racism went with it, along with religious bigotry, terrorism, and the evil rhetoric that's infected you

 

[icup]

me watching this thread and waiting for the perfect opportunity to unleash a yo momma joke

 

[dbair1967]

MrB, I want to make it clear that while I find you to be an absolutely confused and possibly ignorant individual when it comes to real life, that your opinions are definitely welcomed.

Still waiting for you to 'splain to me what the BLM is really all about though.

 

[cml750]

Again, nothing the President said was untrue. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t make the President or anyone else a racist. It just makes YOU feel better to be able to slap a negative label on things you don’t agree with!

Nowhere did the President say “all Mexicans”

You assumed he meant All Mexicans because it fits into your agenda of Hate the bad Orange man bullshit

And that’s fine, you are free to hate him.

Does Trump say stupid shit?
Yes
Do I wish he would put the fucking Twitter down?
Fuck yes
Does he have the balls to say shit that no other politician would say?
Yes
And is that a good thing? Not always.


You didn’t like what he said, it offended you, and that’s fine.

If you are wondering why what he said didn’t offend me? It’s because I know what he said to be true from personal experience.

If the truth offends you so be it, you are free to be offended by anything the bad orange man says.

But simply because you are offended by the truth, does not make anyone else including the person speaking the truth a racist.

Nor does just the act of voting for Trump make anyone a Racist

Nicely stated!

 

[Dodger12]

wow, you've been brain raped - the "victim's club"?
umm ... survivors is a more apt word

and your rhetorically trick of trying to call protestors a "posse" is as tacky and typical as a Jerry Springer episode
it's right / left wing clowns that push vigilantism via false narratives
... and you're too dumb to know it's called justifying terrorism

"Also, Mexicans are now included with black or brown people? Is someone who's dark/brown/olive skinned form, say, the Middle East also included in this posse?"

a thing called European colonialism happened in many places, racism went with it, along with religious bigotry, terrorism, and the evil rhetoric that's infected you

Survivors of what? You act like this is the 1700 and 1800. People come here from foreign lands because America is the beacon of light and hope. Not this racist society that keeps people down. I know you dolt. I'm one of those people. I wasn't born here. And I don't shit on this country. I appreciate the opportunities provided to me and my family. I've also seen what socialized medicine and socialism can due to a society.

Do yourself a favor. Stay off the weed and get a job. It's a good start. Stay out of conversations you know absolutely nothing about.

 

[Dodger12]

You really are an idiot aren’t you? I honestly thought you were just being stubborn but I can see that you really do have a lack of intelligence.


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Don't get triggered bruh. We can settle most any issue over a beers and shots of tequila. You have your opinions and I have mine. We both think the other is ill informed. And, sadly, we won't agree no matter what.

I'll tell you what though....I'll meet you in the middle. If you can get me some of these scarfs, I'll kneel with you in solidarity and brotherhood. I just won't do it during the anthem. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a disgrace and an embarrassment and these folks are just doing it for the show. They don't give a shit about any one of us. But if it will make things better between us, I'm all for it.

Your brother....Dodger12

 

[MrB]

Don't get triggered bruh. We can settle most any issue over a beers and shots of tequila. You have your opinions and I have mine. We both think the other is ill informed. And, sadly, we won't agree no matter what.

I'll tell you what though....I'll meet you in the middle. If you can get me some of these scarfs, I'll kneel with you in solidarity and brotherhood. I just won't do it during the anthem. Don't get me wrong, I think this is a disgrace and an embarrassment and these folks are just doing it for the show. They don't give a shit about any one of us. But if it will make things better between us, I'm all for it.

Your brother....Dodger12

I’m always down for beers and shots. Like you said, we all have our opinions. At the end of the day we are all Americans and regardless of who wins I think we all (the people not the politicians) really want the same things for the most part.

And trust me, I actually do understand that some people chose to stand for the anthem and I have no problem with that. My dad is retired Army and also stands. I also choose to stand out of respect for him. The problem I have is when people dismiss the reason people are choosing to kneel. I personally have been the victim of police brutality and have even had a cop (in East Texas) threaten to lynch me.

As for politicians, again 100% agree. They really don’t give a shit about us. They are more concerned with winning for their side than they are about doing the right thing.

And even though most of you guys think I’m an ill informed idiot, I appreciate the debate. I really like this board and like most of the opinions of the members on this board (not just Cowboys related).

Oh and to dBair and Dooms, I’m going to answer your question about BLM. It’s not a simple question though to answer because not everyone within that organization has good intentions. So give me some time to get my thoughts together, but I will answer the question.


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[Dodger12]

I’m always down for beers and shots. Like you said, we all have our opinions. At the end of the day we are all Americans and regardless of who wins I think we all (the people not the politicians) really want the same things for the most part.

And trust me, I actually do understand that some people chose to stand for the anthem and I have no problem with that. My dad is retired Army and also stands. I also choose to stand out of respect for him. The problem I have is when people dismiss the reason people are choosing to kneel. I personally have been the victim of police brutality and have even had a cop (in East Texas) threaten to lynch me.

As for politicians, again 100% agree. They really don’t give a shit about us. They are more concerned with winning for their side than they are about doing the right thing.

And even though most of you guys think I’m an ill informed idiot, I appreciate the debate. I really like this board and like most of the opinions of the members on this board (not just Cowboys related).

Oh and to dBair and Dooms, I’m going to answer your question about BLM. It’s not a simple question though to answer because not everyone within that organization has good intentions. So give me some time to get my thoughts together, but I will answer the question.


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I have no doubt there are some bad cops. I've seen it and those folks, when they are identified, are fired. It's why the whole Russia Gate issue pisses me off. People sworn to uphold the law and be apolitical lying on affidavits that go before a judge are completely unacceptable, no matter what side of the fence. The public should demand and expect that type of integrity with law enforcement. And while this may sound arrogant in a way, the public should absolutely expect it from the federal law enforcement community. They are expected to be a cut above. Not minimizing our state and local officers in the least, but a federal employee goes through rigorous screening, interviews and polygraphs that you won't find at the state and/or local level. The fact that the FBI has been tarnished in such a way is completely unacceptable.

As I also stated earlier. Racism exists. Police brutality exists. We will never eradicate it, no more than we can stop rapes and murders. But the Minneapolis officers were charged, almost immediately. Officers are being held accountable. But there's a fine line of what we should be critical of when an officer faces a non-compliant suspect. Nothing good happens from those encounters and just about every situation of police involved shootings stem from a non-compliant suspect. As a result, we start seeing anarchy and people not afraid to attack and challenge law enforcement officers who chose not to respond. That's a problem when people are beaten in the streets and when we call 911, no one comes. I think we can all agree on that.

What I don't like is that these cock sucker career politicians have split the country for their political gain. I never asked or even discussed politics so much with my buddies because it really wasn't all that important. Just look at us. I truly believe we are looking at soft tyranny and people who tried to overthrow a duly elected President. I wasn't a fan of Obama but the man got elected twice. I didn't protest, I didn't leak things that I saw to the media, I didn't leak my beliefs that the Department of Justice and the US Attorney's Offices were becoming overly political in who they charged and prosecuted. These things are a danger to civilized societies and shit that we see in foreign third world countries.

We need football. It's our escape from the madness of the world. I hope these idiots don't fuck things up and just play the game.

First round for you and the rest of our group is on me.

 

[cml750]

I’m always down for beers and shots. Like you said, we all have our opinions. At the end of the day we are all Americans and regardless of who wins I think we all (the people not the politicians) really want the same things for the most part.

And trust me, I actually do understand that some people chose to stand for the anthem and I have no problem with that. My dad is retired Army and also stands. I also choose to stand out of respect for him. The problem I have is when people dismiss the reason people are choosing to kneel. I personally have been the victim of police brutality and have even had a cop (in East Texas) threaten to lynch me.

If a cop did that to you he should be fired. In no way do I condone any officer acting like an complete asshole. Unfortunately the world is filled with assholes and some of them become cops. I just do not see how that is a systematic racism issue. Being a racist is an individual choice. I also do not see how kneeling for the flag/anthem really accomplishes anything other than pissing off patriotic people. If they were to have a time before games to kneel to show support against racism not tied to the anthem I would have zero problem and would be 100% supportive of such an endeavor although I would not kneel because I only kneel for the Lord.

As for politicians, again 100% agree. They really don’t give a shit about us. They are more concerned with winning for their side than they are about doing the right thing.

And even though most of you guys think I’m an ill informed idiot, I appreciate the debate. I really like this board and like most of the opinions of the members on this board (not just Cowboys related).

Oh and to dBair and Dooms, I’m going to answer your question about BLM. It’s not a simple question though to answer because not everyone within that organization has good intentions. So give me some time to get my thoughts together, but I will answer the question.


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I look forward to your thoughts on BLM. I will add that some of us have a tough time separating the people with bad intentions from the ones with good intentions within the organization however I am not blind to the fact that many seem to do the exact same thing with police officers.

 

[Number1]

Survivors of what? You act like this is the 1700 and 1800. People come here from foreign lands because America is the beacon of light and hope. Not this racist society that keeps people down. I know you dolt. I'm one of those people. I wasn't born here. And I don't shit on this country. I appreciate the opportunities provided to me and my family. I've also seen what socialized medicine and socialism can due to a society.

Do yourself a favor. Stay off the weed and get a job. It's a good start. Stay out of conversations you know absolutely nothing about.

*** I'm grateful to the Creator for the US and for the opportunity it affords me to defend the rights of all.***

you see this is a government of the people

"And I don't shit on this country." pretty much every time you open your mouth fool, you're following the most notorious liar and trick in world history - that makes you a clown

"Survivors of what?" pay attention stupid - European colonialism and the bloody path that built the modern world.
Right / Left ain't the issue - it's authoritarian siccos thugs that are the issue.

There's no difference between Castro or Baptista, Stalin or Putin, Wilson or Trump ... a thug is a thug

you need to smoke a blunt - maybe it will de-polarize ya - and maybe help you off the oxy

 

[Dodger12]

*** I'm grateful to the Creator for the US and for the opportunity it affords me to defend the rights of all.***

you see this is a government of the people

"And I don't shit on this country." pretty much every time you open your mouth fool, you're following the most notorious liar and trick in world history - that makes you a clown

"Survivors of what?" pay attention stupid - European colonialism and the bloody path that built the modern world.
Right / Left ain't the issue - it's authoritarian siccos thugs that are the issue.

There's no difference between Castro or Baptista, Stalin or Putin, Wilson or Trump ... a thug is a thug

you need to smoke a blunt - maybe it will de-polarize ya - and maybe help you off the oxy

So let me ask you. What place is better and where would you live? I don't think you'll find a country that wasn't founded on colonialism and has land gained from war. But enlighten us all with your thoughts of nirvana....what country is a shining example that we should follow.

By the way, you're really ignorant of the world.......

 

[cml750]

*** I'm grateful to the Creator for the US and for the opportunity it affords me to defend the rights of all.***

you see this is a government of the people

"And I don't shit on this country." pretty much every time you open your mouth fool, you're following the most notorious liar and trick in world history - that makes you a clown

"Survivors of what?" pay attention stupid - European colonialism and the bloody path that built the modern world.
Right / Left ain't the issue - it's authoritarian siccos thugs that are the issue.

There's no difference between Castro or Baptista, Stalin or Putin, Wilson or Trump ... a thug is a thug

you need to smoke a blunt - maybe it will de-polarize ya - and maybe help you off the oxy

Just out of curiosity, who did you originally support for President before the primaries when nobody had dropped out?

 

[Number1]

Just out of curiosity, who did you originally support for President before the primaries when nobody had dropped out?

anyone but a lying trick with orange hair and a dog whistle

 

[dbair1967]

There's no difference between Castro or Baptista, Stalin or Putin, Wilson or Trump ... a thug is a thug

Holy shit, what a fucking imbecile

 

[Rynie]

So, because you disagree with people kneeling at the national anthem, protesting police brutality (which is their right) you're done with the NFL?

I KNOW your old ass wears white NB shoes, tuck in your tshirt, and wear your cellphone on a holster.

Bye, boomer.