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I couldn't help but notice the players chimed in with their top 100 players in the league vote.

DeSean Jackson - 29

Miles Austin - 70

No other WR in the division made the list. Even that mega star Jeremy Maclin.

So now we have the NFL writers and players agreeing with me on the clear cut fact that Jackson has been the lead dog in the division. I'd say he's even a little low at 29.

Jackson's the 5th highest rated WR. Behind Andre Johnson (7), Larry Fitzgerald (14), Roddy White (24) and Calvin Johnson (27).

Austin is the 13th highest rated WR. Behind the four players already mentioned, the superior DeSean Jackson, Reggie Wayne (31), Devin Hester (32), Dwayne Bowe (45), Wes Welker (50), Marques Colston (53), Brandon Lloyd (58) and Brandon Marshall (61).

What's really interesting is the fan poll conducted also has the great DeSean Jackson as the alpha WR in the division. Only by a wider margin over the inferior Miles Austin. 21 to 74.

So we now have the NFL fans, writers and players agreeing with me.

And basically calling you an irrational homer.

Now I agree with them.

lol Carry my racket.


http://top100.nfl.com/
 

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On a side note, I see Mr. Terrell Suggs 40th on the players' list. 34th on the fans list.

Still looking for Terence Newman. Maybe they misspelled it. Badly.
 

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Big shit,

Still doesn't change the fact that the runt has one route and is easily taken out of the game.
 

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They listed him as the #29 PLAYER, not sure as in WR. I think the players took into account his return ability in which he is one of the most electrifying returnmen in the game along with his receiving skills in which he is also the most electrifying home run hitting players. But from a purist standpoint, he is not the best WR in the division. Most people seem to have a grasp that to be considered the best WR, you at elast should be able to run the entire route tree. You take away Jackson's go route and he has nothing. You jam him at the LOS and take him off his game he has nothing. He's a boom-bust player.
 

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They listed him as the #29 PLAYER, not sure as in WR. I think the players took into account his return ability in which he is one of the most electrifying returnmen in the game along with his receiving skills in which he is also the most electrifying home run hitting players. But from a purist standpoint, he is not the best WR in the division. Most people seem to have a grasp that to be considered the best WR, you at elast should be able to run the entire route tree. You take away Jackson's go route and he has nothing. You jam him at the LOS and take him off his game he has nothing. He's a boom-bust player.

You have to remember where the OP is getting his opinion and his peers are as well.

Madden 11 lol
 

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Any list that ranks players like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Julius Peppers higher than DeMarcus Ware (based on todays play, not 5yrs ago) is pretty lame IMO, I dont care who produced it.

That list looks like more of a players popularity list than a real opinion on who's the best players are.
 

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Any list that ranks players like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Julius Peppers higher than DeMarcus Ware (based on todays play, not 5yrs ago) is pretty lame IMO, I dont care who produced it.

That list looks like more of a players popularity list than a real opinion on who's the best players are.

But....who gives a shat what you think? That's the point of these polls. To get all opinions to wash away any personal bias. Which you carry more than any fan I've ever encountered.

You'd be the single last person I'd ask for a legitimate football opinion.

I'll throw it to the NFL players, writers and the entire fan base.

Looky here. Jackson all around.

I wonder if that's because it's just the way it is? Nah. Too painful to admit that!

lol
 

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You have to remember where the OP is getting his opinion and his peers are as well.

Madden 11 lol

Yes. The players, writers and the fans of the 32 teams don't really know the game.

Ya know who does? "Plymkr" from DallasCowboysUniverse.

lol It's like point and laugh retarded.
 

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The fact that Hester is on anyone's top 100 list absolutely negates those opinions.


They also voted McNabb #100.
 

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Yes. Everyone with an opinion different than my own negates that opinion.

The players have spoken. They all agree. It's a clean sweep now. DeSean Jackson. Best in NFC East class.

All this schooling just to avoid tipping your cap to a rival. I'll never understand it. And it's why I'm always more right than the masses. I don't let rooting interests think for me. I don't say dumb things like Jackson isn't the best, can only run one route, Jeremy Maclin is actually the Eagles' lead WR, etc.

Nonsense. Hate the Eagles and Jackson, but he's the best until further notice.

And it'll be me that serves you that notice.

Wait for it.
 

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Dude. They voted McNabb into the top 100. That is all you need to know.

That is all I need to know to ......?

Are you saying that you have a better idea of the ranking of the players than the players do?

Are we not at least able to respect the list considering the source? We can't even do that, eh?
 

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The simple answer, no.

The not so simple answer, no.

Appeal to Authority
Explanation
An appeal to authority is an argument from the fact that a person judged to be an authority affirms a proposition to the claim that the proposition is true.
Appeals to authority are always deductively fallacious; even a legitimate authority speaking on his area of expertise may affirm a falsehood, so no testimony of any authority is guaranteed to be true.
However, the informal fallacy occurs only when the authority cited either (a) is not an authority, or (b) is not an authority on the subject on which he is being cited. If someone either isn’t an authority at all, or isn’t an authority on the subject about which they’re speaking, then that undermines the value of their testimony.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/appeals/appeal-to-authority/
 

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The simple answer, no.

The not so simple answer, no.

Appeal to Authority
Explanation
An appeal to authority is an argument from the fact that a person judged to be an authority affirms a proposition to the claim that the proposition is true.
Appeals to authority are always deductively fallacious; even a legitimate authority speaking on his area of expertise may affirm a falsehood, so no testimony of any authority is guaranteed to be true.
However, the informal fallacy occurs only when the authority cited either (a) is not an authority, or (b) is not an authority on the subject on which he is being cited. If someone either isn’t an authority at all, or isn’t an authority on the subject about which they’re speaking, then that undermines the value of their testimony.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/appeals/appeal-to-authority/

lol huh?

Are you saying NFL players don't have as good of an idea about the skill level of the league's players as you do?

Please tell me you're saying that.
 
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lol huh?

Are you saying NFL players don't have as good of an idea about the skill level of the league's players as you do?

Please tell me you're saying that.

The gist was just because a guy is in the NFL does not mean that his opinion can't be warped by prejudices, loyalty, friendships, and other factors such as voting for a teammate or a college buddy.

Using Jackson as a an example (and not stating that he is not deserving of his ranking, I'm tired of that argument)...his Eagles teammates voted for him, and what of friends he made at the combine and other functions, and probably some players loyal to Cal and the Pac-10.
 

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Who voted in the poll and what criteria did they use when voting? Was an honest effort given to rank players or were names thrown on a list as the players walked out the door? There is no transparency to the poll so it's validity is in question. The fact that McNabb made the top 100 over QB's such as Eli, Bradford, and Cassel is a testament to this.
 

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lol huh?

Are you saying NFL players don't have as good of an idea about the skill level of the league's players as you do?

Please tell me you're saying that.

They probably do have a good idea, but if you read the list in its enirety its obvious that isnt what this is. Its a popularity vote.
 
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