The next Cowboys center?

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

You honestly believe that after trying and failing with an undrafted center just last year, that they will turn around and try the expirament again?

It defies all logic. And I don't for a minute believe that Bill Callahan would disagree with me seeing as how well Nick Mangold has done in New York with the Jets. <== 1st round pick.

It doesn't defy logic. What defies logic is focusing on a persons draft status as opposed to their actual playing. Kowalski played above his UFDA status, but you wouldn't know this because YOU have not watched him.

Offering an opinion up on a player because of their UFDA status and NOT from watching them, is what defies logic.

Comparing him to other players in which has nothing to do with him personally AND to how he has performed, defies logic.

By your "logic", we should NEVER draft another ILB in the 1st round because of Carpenter. Because to do so... would defy "logic", right? Of course you'll say I am "twisitng" things.


Nick Mangold has nothing to do with Konz. Why is it that you are unable to formulate your arguements on their own merits, and you have to instead point to other players like Mangold, Tucker, Free, ect. to either build up (Konz), or tear down (Kowalski)? It's cherry-picking at its worst, it's hypocritical. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that you hadn't watched Konz until just recently and that would be on youtube clips. He's the name out there for Centers.

Once again, if you're going to use the "draft position" argument and on that same team, then why has Sanchez stunk it up? He's 1st rounder. And so what if it's different positions, the principle should still hold the same.

As for Bill Callahan, I would imagine that he would go with the best interior Olineman, and that would be DeCastro.
Aside from being from being an UFDA, Kowlaski is nothing like Costa.

 

[jiggyfly]

You can't draft, for instance, Ben Jones and have him battle it out with Kowalski?

Nobody has said you couldn't unless I missed something.

You seem to be just writing him off arbitrarily.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I base merit off of more than 144 snaps actually.

With you not seeing any of those 144 snaps, so there is no merit at all. But it's not just a 144 snaps. It's 144 snaps WITHOUT a QB pressure.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

You can't draft, for instance, Ben Jones and have him battle it out with Kowalski?

Weren't you the one screaming about how the defense is so bad? So who do you spend the 1st on?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It doesn't defy logic. What defies logic is focusing on a persons draft status as opposed to their actual playing. Kowalski played above his UFDA status, but you wouldn't know this because YOU have not watched him.

Offering an opinion up on a player because of their UFDA status and NOT from watching them, is what defies logic.

What opinion other than, I don't care if he has 144 snaps or not, I still want to hedge our bets at C rather than repeating 2011's center gaffe have I proffered?

Comparing him to other players in which has nothing to do with him personally AND to how he has performed, defies logic.

I never compared Kowalski to Free as players because they don't even play the same position. Just pointed out that a player with a year's worth of experience took a turn for the worst, so judging anything based off of Kowalski's 144 snaps is hurried in the extreme.

By your "logic", we should NEVER draft another ILB in the 1st round because of Carpenter. Because to do so... would defy "logic", right? Of course you'll say I am "twisitng" things.

You're the guy saying the draft pick status is worthless, so I don't know where you're going with this here.

Nick Mangold has nothing to do with Konz. Why is it that you are unable to formulate your arguements on their own merits, and you have to instead point to other players like Mangold, Tucker, Free, ect. to either build up (Konz), or tear down (Kowalski)? It's cherry-picking at its worst, it's hypocritical. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that you hadn't watched Konz until just recently and that would be on youtube clips. He's the name out there for Centers.

I never built up Konz to tear down Kowalski.

Once again, if you're going to use the "draft position" argument and on that same team, then why has Sanchez stunk it up? He's 1st rounder. And so what if it's different positions, the principle should still hold the same.

As for Bill Callahan, I would imagine that he would go with the best interior Olineman, and that would be DeCastro.
Aside from being from being an UFDA, Kowlaski is nothing like Costa.

I brought up Nick Mangold because Bill Callahan felt the success of having him as his C. Who gives a fuck how he feels about Mark Sanchez?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What's the problem with drafting a C high and having him and Kowalski compete for the position, as opposed to just handing it to Kowalski?

Nobody has said you couldn't unless I missed something.

You seem to be just writing him off arbitrarily.

Yeah, you missed something.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

With you not seeing any of those 144 snaps, so there is no merit at all. But it's not just a 144 snaps. It's 144 snaps WITHOUT a QB pressure.

Championship!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Weren't you the one screaming about how the defense is so bad? So who do you spend the 1st on?

Ben Jones isn't considered to be a 1st rounder. But how some sites are ranking it, a guy like Melvin Ingram would be nice there in the 1st.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Ben Jones isn't considered to be a 1st rounder. But how some sites are ranking it, a guy like Melvin Ingram would be nice there in the 1st.

Underwhelming. DeCastro is the better prospect. DeCastro and Branch or DeCastro and the other pass rusher cmd raves about, or a CB would be better.

Sorry, but Kowalski is a better Center than either Arkin, Nagy, and Kosier at Guard. And DeCastro is a better guard than Konz and Jones are at Center. Ergo, DeCastro and Kowalski is better than Ben Jones or Konz at Center with either of those 3 at Guard.

DeCastro is a supposedly a Steve Hutchinson-type player. You don't pass up that for either Konz or Jones. Especially when you can pair that type of player (DeCastro) next to Smith.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This is the simplest I can make it for you, Laz. Please try not to twist this one. While I appreciate the work Kowalski did in those 144 snaps, that's not enough for me to go on to completely ignore the position and say that it's set. We should be, and are probably, scouting centers heavily in this draft, as well as perusing the free agent market for one. At the least, to provide some healthy competition there as opposed to just winging it like we did last year.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Underwhelming. DeCastro is the better prospect. DeCastro and Branch or DeCastro and the other pass rusher cmd raves about, or a CB would be better.

Sorry, but Kowalski is a better Center than either Arkin, Nagy, and Kosier at Guard. And DeCastro is a better guard than Konz and Jones are at Center. Ben Jones or Konz at Center with either of those 3 at Guard, does not give me much confidence

DeCastro is a supposedly a Steve Hutchinson-type player. You don't pass up that for either Konz or Jones. Especially when you can pair that type of player (DeCastro) next to Smith.

I was thinking about the pass-rusher cmd is raving about, Nick Perry, but two weak-side pass-rushers at OLB may be pushing it a bit. I'd have no problem with DeCastro at 14. In fact, it would be the opposite really.

And of the current players on the roster who could potentially play C for us, Kowalski may not even be the coaches' next choice. They are really high on Nagy and seem to want him to start on the line, be at OG or C. Idk if that was a Houck thing or not though.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

If we bring in nicks we have enough camp bodies to compete for 1 spot that whoever our worst starting linemen is this year won't be a detriment this time

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If we bring in nicks we have enough camp bodies to compete for 1 spot that whoever our worst starting linemen is this year won't be a detriment this time

Exactly. At the least, it gives us more options that they like, to sift throught. It's unbelievable that with Costa's struggles, they refused to plug in Kowalski for him.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

This is the simplest I can make it for you, Laz. Please try not to twist this one. While I appreciate the work Kowalski did in those 144 snaps, that's not enough for me to go on to completely ignore the position and say that it's set. We should be, and are probably, scouting centers heavily in this draft, as well as perusing the free agent market for one. At the least, to provide some healthy competition there as opposed to just winging it like we did last year.

How can you appreciate it when you haven't watched him? You're full of shit. Nobody is ignoring it. Going with Kowalski would not be ignoring the position or winging it, the guy has proven himself more than capable thus far---enough to warrant the start, and where we can focus on other positions. You can be snide all you want about the 144 snaps. Fact is... because of those 144 snaps that he done well with, he deserves more.

Not sure where you are getting your claim that they are heavily scouted or that Guard is any less heavily scouted.

Only a fool would take Konz over DeCastro, which is what you are advocating.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

If we bring in nicks we have enough camp bodies to compete for 1 spot that whoever our worst starting linemen is this year won't be a detriment this time

I'm all for bringing in Nicks. And for drafting DeCastro. Nicks, Kowalski, and DeCastro would make for a far better interior than Nicks, Konz, and Arkin, Nagy, Kosier, Dockery, or whomever.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Exactly. At the least, it gives us more options that they like, to sift throught. It's unbelievable that with Costa's struggles, they refused to plug in Kowalski for him.

Blame that on Huock, and he's no longer here. How long did Romo havbe to wait behind the likes of Carter, Testaverde, Hutchinson, and Henson?

 

[NoDak]

Blame that on Huock, and he's no longer here. How long did Romo havbe to wait behind the likes of Carter, Testaverde, Hutchinson, and Henson?

What does one have to do with the other? Please don't tell me you think Houck had any say in when Romo played. And if he didn't, what does how long it took Romo to play have to do with Costa/Kowalski? Especially since you said it to blame that on Houck?

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

What does one have to do with the other? Please don't tell me you think Houck had any say in when Romo played. And if he didn't, what does how long it took Romo to play have to do with Costa/Kowalski? Especially since you said it to blame that on Houck?

Plenty. And Huock was not around when Romo was here. My point was, that just like Kowalski had to sit behind and inferior player, Romo also had to in the above named QBs. That's always been the culture here.

 

[NoDak]

Houck had plenty to say about if/when Romo played? Really? You think the OL coach decided if/when a QB would play, eh?

And you say he wasn't here when Romo was here, huh? Then how did he decide if he played or not? lol


Crack kills, man. Just say no.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Houck had plenty to say about if/when Romo played? Really? You think the OL coach decided if/when a QB would play, eh?

And you say he wasn't here when Romo was here, huh? Then how did he decide if he played or not? lol


Crack kills, man. Just say no.

You right, crack does kill. In your case, crack would be doing us a favor. You have serious reading comprehension problems. Where did I ever say that Huock decided which QB to play?

PAY ATTENTION!

Exactly. At the least, it gives us more options that they like, to sift throught. It's unbelievable that with [Costa's struggles, they refused to plug in Kowalski for him.

Blame that on Huock, and he's no longer here. How long did Romo havbe to wait behind the likes of Carter, Testaverde, Hutchinson, and Henson?

I imagine Huock had something to do with Kowalski not supplanting Costa in the starting lineup. I then went on to allude to how Romo had to endure playing behind inferior QBs before he got his turn. I was using Romo's [rior situation as a p[ossible example of what Kowalski is/has undergone: playing behind an inferior player and outplaying said inferior player.

Not once to I ever refer or suggest or imply that Huock had anything to do with Romo being subjected to backup Carter, Testaverde, Henson, Hutchinson, ect.

Your reading comprehension is fucked. Clearly a result of inbreeding, and the Meth and Mountain Dew diet.