The never-ending POTUS Election thread....

[bbgun]

so Amy's as big a liar as the woman she voted for. makes sense.

 

[dbair1967]

so Amy's as big a liar as the woman she voted for. makes sense.

You know, kunts of a feather......

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Apparently Canada has some really tough immigration laws.

 

[dbair1967]

Apparently Canada has some really tough immigration laws.

No way. How could that be?

I mean everybody should be allowed to come here for whatever reason and stay, why wouldn't it be that way in in a libtard nation like Canada too?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You need to have money in the bank, a sponsor, a 10 year waiting list and a couple other things.

Good luck Mexicans.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I can't blame Canada for that though because they practically give health care away.

 

[bbgun]

You need to have money in the bank, a sponsor, a 10 year waiting list and a couple other things.

Good luck Mexicans.

they're not heading there anyway. too cold.

 

[yimyammer]

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that was quick!

Who the fuck is this stupid bitch?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

they're not heading there anyway. too cold.

They're in droves here in the DMV area. Gets pretty cold too.

 

[yimyammer]

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go Gregory

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So much misdirected anger by those fucks though. They really should be mad at Clinton sabotaging Bernie Sander's chances.

 

[yimyammer]

you don't have to be convicted or even charged before you get pardoned.

really?

How does that work?

So Obama could select a bunch of people who are not in jail and have never been convicted of any crimes and decide to pardon them for all future crimes they may or may not commit?

How is that possible?

instead of attempting to answer my barrage of questions, feel free to link me to some sources where I can find the answers myself

 

[bbgun]

So much misdirected anger by those fucks though. They really should be mad at Clinton sabotaging Bernie Sander's chances.

dude, that Marxist fossil was never going to win. a lifelong boob like Biden had a better chance to defeat Trump.

 

[Doomsday]

I think he's on record saying 20 or 30 times he didn't have the power to grand amnesty, then did it anyway.

Did he not?

No, he did not. Have you ever examined the Federal Registry? That's where all of the actually enacted exec. orders end up. You won't find anything there granting any kind of "amnesty."

Pretty sure the Supreme's undid a few of the items Barry chose to do.

One. Which once again proves my point. He didn't do anything that wasn't within his enumerated powers, to do. And the one time he tried it - because it was a legitimate point of law whether or not he could - the SCOTUS wiped it.

Trump cannot will into existence, term limits. Period.

 

[yimyammer]

I just watched the little video about his 1st transition meeting with Obama.Trump's affect was completely changed.A couple of times when they went to a two shot as Obama spoke, Trump's expression was exactly as anyone's might be, introspective and a touch apprehensive.Nothing brash or abrasive from him in the whole piece.

I noticed that. It almost seemed like he was thinking "Holy shit, what did I get myself into?"

I suspect that even if he turns out to be a good enough president to get reelected, he'll choose to be a one termer

 

[dbair1967]

I can't blame Canada for that though because they practically give health care away.

Well their healthcare is pure garbage, so it outta be free

 

[Doomsday]

really?

How does that work?

The President's pardon powers are limited to FEDERAL crimes, not state or local ones. (Article II section 2 of the Constitution.) The Justice Department requires that anyone requesting a pardon wait five years after conviction or release prior to receiving a pardon.

So Obama could select a bunch of people who are not in jail and have never been convicted of any crimes and decide to pardon them for all future crimes they may or may not commit?

A presidential pardon may be granted at any time - as when Ford pardoned Nixon. The pardoned person need not yet have been convicted or even formally charged with a crime. Clemency may also be granted without the filing of a formal request and even if the intended recipient has no desire to be pardoned.

But again, this pardon power is for federal crimes only.

 

[dbair1967]

No, he did not. Have you ever examined the Federal Registry? That's where all of the actually enacted exec. orders end up. You won't find anything there granting any kind of "amnesty."
One. Which once again proves my point. He didn't do anything that wasn't within his enumerated powers, to do. And the one time he tried it - because it was a legitimate point of law whether or not he could - the SCOTUS wiped it.

What exactly did he grant then when he ordered Executive Amnesty, and why did the Supreme Court overturn it?

Blocked: Supreme Court halts Obama’s executive amnesty on divided 4-4 vote « Hot Air

Trump cannot will into existence, term limits. Period.

I don't think he'd try that, but I do think he will pressure the Congress to act on it. He can go to the people now via addressing the nation and explain why he wants it and why its best for America, and then if Congress refuses its their ass during elections.

 

[dbair1967]

One. Which once again proves my point. He didn't do anything that wasn't within his enumerated powers, to do. And the one time he tried it - because it was a legitimate point of law whether or not he could - the SCOTUS wiped it.
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The “decision marks the 12th time the Supreme Court unanimously ruled against the Obama administration on the issue of executive power,” Heritage Foundation legal expert Elizabeth Slattery explains.

https://www.myheritage.org/news/una...-administrations-unconstitutional-power-grab/

 

[Doomsday]

I don't think he'd try that, but I do think he will pressure the Congress to act on it. He can go to the people now via addressing the nation and explain why he wants it and why its best for America, and then if Congress refuses its their ass during elections.

Congress can't do it either. They can pass a Constitutional Amendment with 2/3 majority vote in both houses but they cannot ratify it. You would then need 38 of the 50 state legislatures, to ratify.

What exactly did he grant then when he ordered Executive Amnesty, and why did the Supreme Court overturn it?

This is where you are confused, because you think X-Orders are active when he signs them. They are not, they have to be entered into the Federal Registry after any challenges to them are sorted. Most never make it into the registry.

So once again, he didn't do anything at all that was not within his enumerated powers, to do. There is no regulation of the CONTENT of a executive order. If one passes the challenges and gets into the registry, only then does it go into effect.